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What if everything is just a dream? Can't prove it isn't! OBEs are pretty interesting. Some are obviously hallucinations, people prove it is not the real thi
by yters 9y ago
What if everything is just a dream? Can't prove it isn't!
OBEs are pretty interesting. Some are obviously hallucinations, people prove it is not the real thing by shuffling a deck of cards when in body, and then checking the deck when OBE. If the cards in the two experiences don't match, the OBE is not real.
On the other hand, there are stories of hospital OBEs where patients actually learn confirmable information about the real world that they had no way of knowing if they did not really have an OBE. One example I've heard a couple times is a lady who saw a green tennis shoe on the roof of the hospital, and someone later went up and found it.
It is also interesting to learn the underpinnings of the Frankfurt school. I had thought they were communists of some sort, but communists are just as materialistic as the fascists they dislike. So, I guess they are a bit more nuanced in their views.
- theoh 9y agoOn the Frankfurt School: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/sep/18/grand-hotel-abyss-stuart-jeffries-review-lives-frankfurt-school-horkheimer-adorno-marcuse-fromm http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/sep/18/grand-hotel-aby...
- incompatible 9y ago"Stories of hospital OBEs" ins't reliable information, it's urban legend. If it was possible to obtain real information from OBE, it would be easy to demonstrate it in a lab. You'd need somebody who can experience OBE at will.
- ExcelSaga 9y agoI like the old rumor? of the doctor who put a piece of paper with a code word written on it, on top of a high shelf in the OR. As the story goes, no one was ever able to report the code word. This is not unlike Houdini’s code phrase for his wife to recognize a valid psychic (no dice there either), or the classic test of reiki practitioners [1]. 1. “So you can feel my energy? Through clothing? Blindfolded? Great, here’s a thin fabric screen, you should stand on that side, and point to where I am on the other, if I’m there at all.” No one gets that either.
- yters 9y agoWhy would it need to be easy to demonstrate in a lab to be true?