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Come on now, it's a cloud machine learning product, you can access it using purely open source tools all running on an open source operating system if you like.

by Gatsky 9y ago

Come on now, it's a cloud machine learning product, you can access it using purely open source tools all running on an open source operating system if you like. No need to pronounce doom because the demo doesn't work in your browser.

matthewmacleod 9y ago
I appreciate the quality of the offering, and indeed I'm excited because I am currently building a product that uses Google's synthesis! But it's the lack of care displayed here that's really disappointing. It's like nobody involved with this demo went "Hey, maybe people aren't using Chrome and we should at least not totally fail when that happens". It's disappointing; as a mostly front-end dev at a small company, I put a lot of time into making sure that things work cross-platform, even if I don't always get it right. It's disappointing that Google's culture doesn't rate that highly enough.
- StavrosK 9y ago
  The solution is simple: Get as many people as you can to migrate to Firefox!
  - paulryanrogers 9y ago
    Then it works in two browsers: most popular and their own. Ideally there would be such a large number of in-use standards compliant browsers that companies had to comply.
    - matthewmacleod 9y ago
      There are four or five out there. I would expect the average modern web app to be compatible with Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Edge, and possibly IE11 if that’s appropriate for the particular use case.
    - StavrosK 9y ago
      The problem isn't so much that browser vendors don't adhere to standards, it's that they make their own additional features and then make webpages that work with those. Having standards won't do anything for that, unless the standard says "you must not implement extra functionality".
freehunter 9y ago
That'd be a reasonable response if Google didn't have a history of deliberately making things incompatible with other browsers for no discernible reason. https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone
- est 9y ago
  > making things incompatible with other browsers for no discernible reason The reason is simple, Chrome is Google's bitch just like IE was Microsoft's bitch.

by Gatsky 9y ago

matthewmacleod 9y ago

I appreciate the quality of the offering, and indeed I'm excited because I am currently building a product that uses Google's synthesis! But it's the lack of care displayed here that's really disappointing. It's like nobody involved with this demo went "Hey, maybe people aren't using Chrome and we should at least not totally fail when that happens". It's disappointing; as a mostly front-end dev at a small company, I put a lot of time into making sure that things work cross-platform, even if I don't always get it right. It's disappointing that Google's culture doesn't rate that highly enough.

StavrosK 9y ago
The solution is simple: Get as many people as you can to migrate to Firefox!
- paulryanrogers 9y ago
  Then it works in two browsers: most popular and their own. Ideally there would be such a large number of in-use standards compliant browsers that companies had to comply.
  - matthewmacleod 9y ago
    There are four or five out there. I would expect the average modern web app to be compatible with Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Edge, and possibly IE11 if that’s appropriate for the particular use case.
  - StavrosK 9y ago
    The problem isn't so much that browser vendors don't adhere to standards, it's that they make their own additional features and then make webpages that work with those. Having standards won't do anything for that, unless the standard says "you must not implement extra functionality".

freehunter 9y ago

That'd be a reasonable response if Google didn't have a history of deliberately making things incompatible with other browsers for no discernible reason. https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone

est 9y ago
> making things incompatible with other browsers for no discernible reason The reason is simple, Chrome is Google's bitch just like IE was Microsoft's bitch.