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The central variable that creates the "gender pay gap" is not sexist employer discrimination. The gap is primarily created by the fact that women, more typicall

The central variable that creates the "gender pay gap" is not sexist employer discrimination. The gap is primarily created by the fact that women, more typically than men, are the ones who raise children full time. https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/04/14/statistical-frauds https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/04/14/statistica...

cbhl 9y ago
Yes, we should also be advocating for better paternity leave policies, so that men can take a bigger role in child care. However, that does not mean companies shouldn't audit pay across race and gender, controlling for job role, level and performance. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit performance reviews for inequity. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit job role and level and promotion processes for inequity. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit hiring processes for inequity. Different people experience inequity in different ways. Some people experience it in more than one way. We need systemic solutions to address each of these failure modes.
- wu-ikkyu 9y ago
  Indeed consistency is important. Likewise it is important to review these things without the influence of erroneous prejudice, such as the belief that women with the same skills and experience are being systemically paid less due to rampant sexism.
- jinushaun 9y ago
  No amount of “better” paternity leave will ever mean that I will be able to birth and nurse a child myself. (First time dad here of a 5 month old) Nor do I require extra time off before the birth. Fathers don’t have this issue because they don’t lose time giving birth and recovering no matter how involved they are in taking care of the kid after birth. This lost time is unavoidable for working moms. Even in countries with generous leave policy, this lost time is unrecoverable and has a permanent affect on your career. For example, in Italy the mother is forced to take a year off whether they want to or not. That’s one year less of a promotion or pay raise. Time is money and time not working is time not earning money. These are real obstacles women face in the workforce that drive down their earning potential. Successful women either choose to not have children, or earn enough to pay someone else to care for their children full time.

cbhl 9y ago

Yes, we should also be advocating for better paternity leave policies, so that men can take a bigger role in child care. However, that does not mean companies shouldn't audit pay across race and gender, controlling for job role, level and performance. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit performance reviews for inequity. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit job role and level and promotion processes for inequity. Nor does it mean companies shouldn't audit hiring processes for inequity. Different people experience inequity in different ways. Some people experience it in more than one way. We need systemic solutions to address each of these failure modes.

wu-ikkyu 9y ago
Indeed consistency is important. Likewise it is important to review these things without the influence of erroneous prejudice, such as the belief that women with the same skills and experience are being systemically paid less due to rampant sexism.
jinushaun 9y ago
No amount of “better” paternity leave will ever mean that I will be able to birth and nurse a child myself. (First time dad here of a 5 month old) Nor do I require extra time off before the birth. Fathers don’t have this issue because they don’t lose time giving birth and recovering no matter how involved they are in taking care of the kid after birth. This lost time is unavoidable for working moms. Even in countries with generous leave policy, this lost time is unrecoverable and has a permanent affect on your career. For example, in Italy the mother is forced to take a year off whether they want to or not. That’s one year less of a promotion or pay raise. Time is money and time not working is time not earning money. These are real obstacles women face in the workforce that drive down their earning potential. Successful women either choose to not have children, or earn enough to pay someone else to care for their children full time.