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As a man, you're more likely to be murdered, killed in a war, commit suicide, die in a workplace accident, and be sentenced to prison disproportionately longer

As a man, you're more likely to be murdered, killed in a war, commit suicide, die in a workplace accident, and be sentenced to prison disproportionately longer for the same crime as compared to women.

vkou 9y ago
I'm also incredibly less likely to be raped, be the victim of domestic abuse from my partner, pressured by my boss for sex, have my qualifications questioned over my gender, low-balled on offers, negatively evaluated for expressing 'masculine' traits in the workplace, be low-balled on hiring offers, have my career suffer because of fears that I'll have a child and take paternity leave, should I keep going..? The nature of privilege is that some people have more of it in certain contexts, and other people have more of it in other contexts. That doesn't mean that the playing field is equal. And, uh, if I were a black or native man, I'd have all the problems you listed, and a whole bunch more.
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- wu-ikkyu 9y ago
  Being killed or locked in prison (where the likelihood of rape skyrockets) seems objectively worse than any of those things, does it not? Why is it that you are so eager to ignore the inequalities against men in favor of women?
  - vkou 9y ago
    It's great that we're talking about prison. If you're a black man, you are seven times more likely to be incarcerated then a white man. Five times more likely to be arrested for drug possession, despite similar rates of drug use. 30% more likely to be jailed before your trial. 150% more likely to be searched at a traffic stop. Since you're placing so much emphasis on prison, as worse then any of the things I listed, it sounds like you you should agree that white privilege is a huge problem. But let's take a step back. Since I'm a white man, my odds of being incarcerated are ~1/100. Small chance of that. If I were a woman, however, I'd be dealing with the problems I listed in my previous post all the time. Read my posts. Nowhere did I ignore that inequalities in both directions exist. What I take issue with is people blowing the inequalities that disadvantage white men out of proportion. Almost all the gender-particular problems they have, men of color have, with a second and third helping.
    - wu-ikkyu 9y ago
      I agree with virtually everything you have said, but I am still sensing an implicit prejudice towards men. You claim to take issue with people blowing inequalities out of proportion: >What I take issue with is people blowing the inequalities that disadvantage white men out of proportion. And yet that is exactly what you just did, by cherry picking one of the "lesser" problems men face (disproportionate incarceration), ignoring the others (higher probability of getting killed), and then using hyperbole ("all the time") in favor of women: >Since I'm a white man, my odds of being incarcerated are ~1/100. Small chance of that. If I were a woman, however, I'd be dealing with the problems I listed in my previous post all the time.

vkou 9y ago

I'm also incredibly less likely to be raped, be the victim of domestic abuse from my partner, pressured by my boss for sex, have my qualifications questioned over my gender, low-balled on offers, negatively evaluated for expressing 'masculine' traits in the workplace, be low-balled on hiring offers, have my career suffer because of fears that I'll have a child and take paternity leave, should I keep going..? The nature of privilege is that some people have more of it in certain contexts, and other people have more of it in other contexts. That doesn't mean that the playing field is equal. And, uh, if I were a black or native man, I'd have all the problems you listed, and a whole bunch more.

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wu-ikkyu 9y ago
Being killed or locked in prison (where the likelihood of rape skyrockets) seems objectively worse than any of those things, does it not? Why is it that you are so eager to ignore the inequalities against men in favor of women?
- vkou 9y ago
  It's great that we're talking about prison. If you're a black man, you are seven times more likely to be incarcerated then a white man. Five times more likely to be arrested for drug possession, despite similar rates of drug use. 30% more likely to be jailed before your trial. 150% more likely to be searched at a traffic stop. Since you're placing so much emphasis on prison, as worse then any of the things I listed, it sounds like you you should agree that white privilege is a huge problem. But let's take a step back. Since I'm a white man, my odds of being incarcerated are ~1/100. Small chance of that. If I were a woman, however, I'd be dealing with the problems I listed in my previous post all the time. Read my posts. Nowhere did I ignore that inequalities in both directions exist. What I take issue with is people blowing the inequalities that disadvantage white men out of proportion. Almost all the gender-particular problems they have, men of color have, with a second and third helping.
  - wu-ikkyu 9y ago
    I agree with virtually everything you have said, but I am still sensing an implicit prejudice towards men. You claim to take issue with people blowing inequalities out of proportion: >What I take issue with is people blowing the inequalities that disadvantage white men out of proportion. And yet that is exactly what you just did, by cherry picking one of the "lesser" problems men face (disproportionate incarceration), ignoring the others (higher probability of getting killed), and then using hyperbole ("all the time") in favor of women: >Since I'm a white man, my odds of being incarcerated are ~1/100. Small chance of that. If I were a woman, however, I'd be dealing with the problems I listed in my previous post all the time.