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You might be overly sensitive. My wife still runs an iPhone 6 (not 6s), on the latest OS. I can only just tell the difference between it and my 8 (also on the

by jachee 9y ago

You might be overly sensitive. My wife still runs an iPhone 6 (not 6s), on the latest OS. I can only just tell the difference between it and my 8 (also on the latest OS.) in app load times for giant apps. Otherwise (scrolling, network, etc.) there is no functional difference unless you're sitting there with a stopwatch. Don't propagate the false "planned obsolescence" meme. It's tired and counter-productive, especially from a security standpoint.

lambda_lover 9y ago
Maybe you're just not that sensitive to it? App load times aren't what keeps me from updating, it's stability -- iOS 11 is still ridden with bugs, which is ridiculous for a 6 month old OS used by millions of people worldwide. Of course, CPU throttling is another valid reason to hold off, or, if you use a phone with a smaller screen like my SE, you might not want to update to an OS that doesn't scale well for your screen size..
mthoms 9y ago
Apple fed the flames of the "planned obsolescence" meme with it's own stupid actions. Apple has no-one to blame but themselves.
Silhouette 9y ago
Don't propagate the false "planned obsolescence" meme. Please don't apologise for poor treatment of customers on behalf of Apple. Remember the way they drove updates to iOS7, by essentially breaking all apps in the app store that weren't iOS7 friendly? Remember all the performance problems as otherwise perfectly serviceable older devices were updated to newer OSes they couldn't properly support? Remember how Apple provides no easy mechanism for downgrading again if an OS (or app) update does impair or outright break your device, nor any way to turn off the nags if it thinks you should upgrade even though all the reviews and real world anecdotes are saying the new version is a disaster?
bayonetz 9y ago
It’s not regular app load times where I notice it. It’s things like Safari’s url bar autocomplete responding slower and slower with each update. Like noticeable lag with each keystroke. It doesn’t matter which default search engine is set either as I’ve tried various things to improve the situation giving the OS / Apple-built apps the benefit of the doubt. It’s things like the how picking an image in Photos and directing it to share as an SMS or email gets slower with each update. Like many seconds before the SMS composer shows up. And so on and so on... Speaking of wives, mine has the same slowdowns as me. It happens on our iPads too. We like being on the same OS version so we have the same features and emojis and such. We have to let each other know when one of us gets tricked again into updating so the other can too. It’s a source of much frustration for us. Whether it’s nefarious overtly planned obsolescence or just the “accidental” lazy kind where they put less effort into supporting older hardware, the effect is the same and it sucks. I should get to choose to upgrade. Period.

by jachee 9y ago

lambda_lover 9y ago

Maybe you're just not that sensitive to it? App load times aren't what keeps me from updating, it's stability -- iOS 11 is still ridden with bugs, which is ridiculous for a 6 month old OS used by millions of people worldwide. Of course, CPU throttling is another valid reason to hold off, or, if you use a phone with a smaller screen like my SE, you might not want to update to an OS that doesn't scale well for your screen size..

mthoms 9y ago

Apple fed the flames of the "planned obsolescence" meme with it's own stupid actions. Apple has no-one to blame but themselves.

Silhouette 9y ago

Don't propagate the false "planned obsolescence" meme. Please don't apologise for poor treatment of customers on behalf of Apple. Remember the way they drove updates to iOS7, by essentially breaking all apps in the app store that weren't iOS7 friendly? Remember all the performance problems as otherwise perfectly serviceable older devices were updated to newer OSes they couldn't properly support? Remember how Apple provides no easy mechanism for downgrading again if an OS (or app) update does impair or outright break your device, nor any way to turn off the nags if it thinks you should upgrade even though all the reviews and real world anecdotes are saying the new version is a disaster?

bayonetz 9y ago

It’s not regular app load times where I notice it. It’s things like Safari’s url bar autocomplete responding slower and slower with each update. Like noticeable lag with each keystroke. It doesn’t matter which default search engine is set either as I’ve tried various things to improve the situation giving the OS / Apple-built apps the benefit of the doubt. It’s things like the how picking an image in Photos and directing it to share as an SMS or email gets slower with each update. Like many seconds before the SMS composer shows up. And so on and so on... Speaking of wives, mine has the same slowdowns as me. It happens on our iPads too. We like being on the same OS version so we have the same features and emojis and such. We have to let each other know when one of us gets tricked again into updating so the other can too. It’s a source of much frustration for us. Whether it’s nefarious overtly planned obsolescence or just the “accidental” lazy kind where they put less effort into supporting older hardware, the effect is the same and it sucks. I should get to choose to upgrade. Period.