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Does anyone know when graphics cards will be available at sane prices for people who actually want to use them one (or two max) at a time to render graphics?

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 9y ago
It's really hard to come up with a timeline, but I'd say the worst has passed. It will take time to recover inventory, but the alt-coin market (basically, not-Bitcoin cryptocurrencies) has died down a lot and the rush to acquire mining capital has likely diminished. 6 months to a year, maybe?
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  Let's hope the deep learning craze doesn't pick up pace.
- redbeard0x0a 9y ago
  Yeah, it should be getting better soon. Especially since ETH is now 1/3 what it was in Jan ($458.42 at the moment, $1350+ in Jan). As long as the prices don't rally again!
- nielsole 9y ago
  Keep an eye on the used graphics card market. If we see a burst / die down the market should be flooded with excess high end cards
  - blacksmith_tb 9y ago
    I am not sure I would pay too much for card that had been run flat-out for months in a rusting hangar with standing water, though.
    - crowbahr 9y ago
      Run flat out but undervolted because you get better electrical efficiency. I'd take that.
      - Narishma 9y ago
        But with a used card, you have no way of knowing if it was indeed run that way.
- jamesblonde 9y ago
  If Ethereum does move over to proof-of-stake, then the market will be flooded with 1080Tis. I expect the DeepLearning11 server will then be a goldmine for DL researchers - cheap as chips.
  - MasterScrat 9y ago
    Can't wait. Fingers crossed.
stagger87 9y ago
Almost all of the Nvidia GTX cards are back in stock on Amazon (for Prime shipping) and are relatively close to MSRP. (Edit: You will still have to sort through overpriced ones)
- felippee 9y ago
  Yeah depends on what you mean by close. I see the cheapest 1080ti at newegg right now for $909. Bought mine a year ago (founders edition) for $699. It is getting better but we are still far away from sanity. IMHO this (year old) card should sell today for ~$500 if things were to be normal.
  - Washuu 9y ago
    I bought a GTX 1060 3GB in November 2016 for $165. The cheapest right now is $275. There is a long way to go for full recovery.
wmf 9y ago
People are saying that prebuilt PCs include graphics cards at MSRP. If you mean Volta at a sane price, they didn't announce it today so it may be a while.
sabalaba 9y ago
The bad news is that a lot of system builders like us (we build pre-built systems pre-installed with Deep Learning software http://lambdalabs.com http://lambdalabs.com) are now used to paying more than MSRP for our GPUs. MSRP for a 1080Ti is supposed to be $699. They haven't been available even in large bulk purchases at that price for a while now. I don't see it going back down any time soon.
namlem 9y ago
You'll probably be able to pick up a 2080 for a reasonable price when it comes out, which should be soon.
sangnoir 9y ago
I can't say when, but you might be happy to know that graphics card availability has been improving throughout March, albeit at expensive, but no longer insane prices. I was monitoring availability of various AMD and Nvidia cards since January (using nowinstock.com): previously cards would be available for a few hours at a time at an outlet - now we're up to weeks and the prices have been going down a bit - they are still above MRSP. The the ongoing cryptocoin downward spiral persists for a few more months, GPU prices ought to come down.

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 9y ago

It's really hard to come up with a timeline, but I'd say the worst has passed. It will take time to recover inventory, but the alt-coin market (basically, not-Bitcoin cryptocurrencies) has died down a lot and the rush to acquire mining capital has likely diminished. 6 months to a year, maybe?

TeMPOraL 9y ago
Let's hope the deep learning craze doesn't pick up pace.
redbeard0x0a 9y ago
Yeah, it should be getting better soon. Especially since ETH is now 1/3 what it was in Jan ($458.42 at the moment, $1350+ in Jan). As long as the prices don't rally again!
nielsole 9y ago
Keep an eye on the used graphics card market. If we see a burst / die down the market should be flooded with excess high end cards
- blacksmith_tb 9y ago
  I am not sure I would pay too much for card that had been run flat-out for months in a rusting hangar with standing water, though.
  - crowbahr 9y ago
    Run flat out but undervolted because you get better electrical efficiency. I'd take that.
    - Narishma 9y ago
      But with a used card, you have no way of knowing if it was indeed run that way.
jamesblonde 9y ago
If Ethereum does move over to proof-of-stake, then the market will be flooded with 1080Tis. I expect the DeepLearning11 server will then be a goldmine for DL researchers - cheap as chips.
- MasterScrat 9y ago
  Can't wait. Fingers crossed.

stagger87 9y ago

Almost all of the Nvidia GTX cards are back in stock on Amazon (for Prime shipping) and are relatively close to MSRP. (Edit: You will still have to sort through overpriced ones)

felippee 9y ago
Yeah depends on what you mean by close. I see the cheapest 1080ti at newegg right now for $909. Bought mine a year ago (founders edition) for $699. It is getting better but we are still far away from sanity. IMHO this (year old) card should sell today for ~$500 if things were to be normal.
- Washuu 9y ago
  I bought a GTX 1060 3GB in November 2016 for $165. The cheapest right now is $275. There is a long way to go for full recovery.

wmf 9y ago

People are saying that prebuilt PCs include graphics cards at MSRP. If you mean Volta at a sane price, they didn't announce it today so it may be a while.

sabalaba 9y ago

The bad news is that a lot of system builders like us (we build pre-built systems pre-installed with Deep Learning software http://lambdalabs.com http://lambdalabs.com) are now used to paying more than MSRP for our GPUs. MSRP for a 1080Ti is supposed to be $699. They haven't been available even in large bulk purchases at that price for a while now. I don't see it going back down any time soon.

namlem 9y ago

You'll probably be able to pick up a 2080 for a reasonable price when it comes out, which should be soon.

sangnoir 9y ago

I can't say when, but you might be happy to know that graphics card availability has been improving throughout March, albeit at expensive, but no longer insane prices. I was monitoring availability of various AMD and Nvidia cards since January (using nowinstock.com): previously cards would be available for a few hours at a time at an outlet - now we're up to weeks and the prices have been going down a bit - they are still above MRSP. The the ongoing cryptocoin downward spiral persists for a few more months, GPU prices ought to come down.