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Ha. I was just talking here the other day about how my friend at Facebook would always say that Palantir has even more data, including just about everything fro
by daodedickinson 9y ago
Ha. I was just talking here the other day about how my friend at Facebook would always say that Palantir has even more data, including just about everything from Facebook, and a commenter responded that they couldn't see how Palantir would actually be able to scrape up Facebook's data...
- bitxbit 9y agothis is a big deal that could really sink FB if true.
- SimbaOnSteroids 9y agoPeople are flocking to instagram, I don't believe that FB is in danger here, maybe they need to pivot, but I doubt they sink.
- olefoo 9y agoInstagram is owned by Facebook. Acquisition was in 2012.
- seattle_spring 9y agoThat was kind of the point of the parent post.
- olefoo 9y agoThey should have used the sarcasm tag.
- vinay427 9y agoThere wasn't any sarcasm. They were literally saying that "people are flocking to instagram" so they "don't believe that FB is in danger here."
- SimbaOnSteroids 9y agoYes exactly, and by pivot I mean prioritize data collection from Instagram.
- ShinTakuya 9y agoBut it's not sarcasm. It's true. People are "leaving Facebook" for instagram without understanding that Facebook owns instagram.
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- hisabness 9y agofb owns insta
- mieseratte 9y ago> including just about everything from Facebook So all those half-joking "conspiracy theories" about Facebook being a collection tool for three-letter agencies isn't that far off.
- dictum 9y agoUltimately, every American company is a collection tool for three-letter agencies, and through allies, most non-American corporations too. I like to think FB is how they check the accuracy of their other data sets.
- imperialdrive 9y agoIt's fantastic that they do collect and share this information - I imagine many thousands of arrests made based on data collected, if not 10K's+ I wouldn't be surprised if hundreds of lives were saved... and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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- Bartweiss 9y agoFor me at least, it was never a joke... I don't think tech companies are literally run by three-letter agencies, but after Yahoo and Lavabit (showing two very different reactions to surveillance requests), it's become pretty clear that any large US-based company is at minimum a backup or validation source for surveillance. The standing questions seem to be "do they accept non-warrant surveillance?" and "do they allow bulk surveillance?". If anyone still thinks they don't comply with targeted surveillance, I'd be shocked.
- anigbrowl 9y agoScraping stuff from Facebook is tedious in the extreme due to all the obfuscatory javascript, but that doesn't seem like it would be a problem for a firm with Palantir's resources.
- Amadiro 9y agoNo need to scrape anything when you can just subpoena. That is the business palantir is in.
- anigbrowl 9y agoSubpoenas need some probable cause to be issued. It'd be interesting to estimate what percentage of target population you'd need to subpoena complete details on in order to build a social graph of the whole population, but I feel that that volume of legal activity would create waves even if it were only around 1%. Most court systems are overburdended as is, a significant increase would be noticeable. Of course, if you were just getting that information as a matter of course in many arrests and were willing to accumulate it slowly over time it's very possible. I'm preoccupied with scraping issues as that's my only available avenue.
- daodedickinson 9y agoPalantir works with agencies that can use FISA warrants to quickly and silently grab just about anything.