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I've been pissed off at my HTC incredible not being updated with Froyo, and being UI-ily inconsistent (why when I hit the Home button when I'm already at the Ho

I've been pissed off at my HTC incredible not being updated with Froyo, and being UI-ily inconsistent (why when I hit the Home button when I'm already at the Home screen does it proceed to give me a zoomed-out view of all my desktops? Why do I even have multiple desktops on a phone?), and being excessively carrier-branded, and Google lost the not-evil designation with the net neutrality thing. And, I've been impressed with the iPhone 4's physical and software shininess (and yes, I'm willing to not hold it that way), so much so I was leaning in the iPhone direction for the next round of phone, assuming they did a deal with Verizon (big if), but this now has me reminded of the sucky elements: namely, no Google Voice, bad notifications, and the potential to get hurt, rather than helped, by OS updates.

gierach 16y ago
Like you, I was eagerly anticipating the Froyo upgrade for my Incredible. However, after receiving the update, I am actually looking for ways to go back to 2.1. I haven't noticed any visual improvements, in fact the Sense UI seems more sluggish. Also, HTC and Verizon jammed in a ton of uninstallable software with Froyo. I now have Skype Mobile, Amazon MP3, My Verizon Mobile, some "Stocks" app, City ID (which continues from 2.1) and a bunch more that you can't remove and it all randomly starts running when I'm not looking. The battery life (which used to be great, much better than a buddy's Evo) is terrible as a result. Google really needs to reign it in.
- elblanco 16y ago
  >in fact the Sense UI seems more sluggish >The battery life (which used to be great, much better than a buddy's Evo) is terrible as a result. Google really needs to reign it in. I've actually had the exact opposite experience, it's super snappy now and the battery seems to last a full 40-50% longer. I've noticed in some forums that people seem to be having either your experience or mine. Strange that would happen on a fixed target, unless there's some differences in the guts of different revs of the Incredibles.
  - gierach 16y ago
    Maybe VZW is split testing the rollout with different bundles and settings. My wife has had the same issues as me with her Incredible after the update. Maybe our charger is hosed and we only noticed a difference when looking for changes between versions.
    - elblanco 16y ago
      I've heard from a few people that right after the update they had a bad day or two and then something sorted itself out in the phone. I'd recommend getting rid of any task management software/killers as well.
- Mongoose 16y ago
  Your Incredible+Froyo experience couldn't be more different from mine. Performance and overall snappiness has increased noticeably after upgrading from Eclair. My battery life hasn't been negatively affected either. If anything, it's improved.
sandipc 16y ago
"Why do I even have multiple desktops on a phone?" I think this 'issue' is here to stay. With Android's widgets, there's no way I can fit everything I use daily on one home screen.
shade 16y ago
I feel your pain. I've tried more than once to escape the iPhone for the less-locked-down Android, and every time I've gone crawling back. I tried the original Droid and had a lot of stability problems (in retrospect, probably a bad hardware sample), and I just spent a week and a half with the Droid Incredible (with the Froyo update), including the long Labor Day weekend... at the conclusion of which I went down to AT&T last night and had my iPhone 3GS reactivated, then returned the Incredible to Verizon this morning. I could write a long treatise on the pros and cons of both platforms, but what it comes down to is that Android still has too many rough edges not to annoy me, and I'd rather eat the restocking fee and activation charges than spend most of the next two years carrying a phone that annoys me every time I use it. Living in Apple's walled city can be expensive, annoying, and sometimes feels like living in Duloc -- but the trains run on time and the mail generally gets delivered properly. It's not always perfect in reality and Apple sometimes does stupid things with UI (hello, vertical buttons in iTunes 10), but it's usually a very smooth experience and I can't deny Apple does a better job of sweating the small stuff than their competitors. I think that's part of why they have so many rabidly loyal customers. Yes, they're very good at marketing, but in my experience their products do a good job of backing up the marketing ("magical" adjectives on the iPad excepted, perhaps). I do miss the Droid Incredible's high-res screen, which is why I'll probably buy an iPhone 4 soon. I don't even care that it's on AT&T -- a week and a half of running around Akron and Cleveland running into Verizon dead zones where my iPhone always worked has led me to the conclusion that AT&T isn't all that bad.

gierach 16y ago

Like you, I was eagerly anticipating the Froyo upgrade for my Incredible. However, after receiving the update, I am actually looking for ways to go back to 2.1. I haven't noticed any visual improvements, in fact the Sense UI seems more sluggish. Also, HTC and Verizon jammed in a ton of uninstallable software with Froyo. I now have Skype Mobile, Amazon MP3, My Verizon Mobile, some "Stocks" app, City ID (which continues from 2.1) and a bunch more that you can't remove and it all randomly starts running when I'm not looking. The battery life (which used to be great, much better than a buddy's Evo) is terrible as a result. Google really needs to reign it in.

elblanco 16y ago
>in fact the Sense UI seems more sluggish >The battery life (which used to be great, much better than a buddy's Evo) is terrible as a result. Google really needs to reign it in. I've actually had the exact opposite experience, it's super snappy now and the battery seems to last a full 40-50% longer. I've noticed in some forums that people seem to be having either your experience or mine. Strange that would happen on a fixed target, unless there's some differences in the guts of different revs of the Incredibles.
- gierach 16y ago
  Maybe VZW is split testing the rollout with different bundles and settings. My wife has had the same issues as me with her Incredible after the update. Maybe our charger is hosed and we only noticed a difference when looking for changes between versions.
  - elblanco 16y ago
    I've heard from a few people that right after the update they had a bad day or two and then something sorted itself out in the phone. I'd recommend getting rid of any task management software/killers as well.
Mongoose 16y ago
Your Incredible+Froyo experience couldn't be more different from mine. Performance and overall snappiness has increased noticeably after upgrading from Eclair. My battery life hasn't been negatively affected either. If anything, it's improved.

sandipc 16y ago

"Why do I even have multiple desktops on a phone?" I think this 'issue' is here to stay. With Android's widgets, there's no way I can fit everything I use daily on one home screen.

shade 16y ago

I feel your pain. I've tried more than once to escape the iPhone for the less-locked-down Android, and every time I've gone crawling back. I tried the original Droid and had a lot of stability problems (in retrospect, probably a bad hardware sample), and I just spent a week and a half with the Droid Incredible (with the Froyo update), including the long Labor Day weekend... at the conclusion of which I went down to AT&T last night and had my iPhone 3GS reactivated, then returned the Incredible to Verizon this morning. I could write a long treatise on the pros and cons of both platforms, but what it comes down to is that Android still has too many rough edges not to annoy me, and I'd rather eat the restocking fee and activation charges than spend most of the next two years carrying a phone that annoys me every time I use it. Living in Apple's walled city can be expensive, annoying, and sometimes feels like living in Duloc -- but the trains run on time and the mail generally gets delivered properly. It's not always perfect in reality and Apple sometimes does stupid things with UI (hello, vertical buttons in iTunes 10), but it's usually a very smooth experience and I can't deny Apple does a better job of sweating the small stuff than their competitors. I think that's part of why they have so many rabidly loyal customers. Yes, they're very good at marketing, but in my experience their products do a good job of backing up the marketing ("magical" adjectives on the iPad excepted, perhaps). I do miss the Droid Incredible's high-res screen, which is why I'll probably buy an iPhone 4 soon. I don't even care that it's on AT&T -- a week and a half of running around Akron and Cleveland running into Verizon dead zones where my iPhone always worked has led me to the conclusion that AT&T isn't all that bad.