On the other hand, Java was on a decline before Android, and since then it's more popular than ever. Just think how many new developers have had to "learn Java"

On the other hand, Java was on a decline before Android, and since then it's more popular than ever. Just think how many new developers have had to "learn Java" just so they can build Android apps. I understand the fragmentation issue, but I think it's a minor one and the net benefit for the Java ecosystem was much larger. Also, Oracle is simply in the wrong trying to copyright APIs, and it has gotten a lot of hate from developers over that + all the other things they've done to Sun's previous projects that also made developers hate them. With its developer-hostile attitude, is it any wonder developers are no longer interested in having anything to do with Oracle? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/oracles-lack-of-developer-appeal-is-killing-its-cloud-business/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/oracles-lack-of-develop... Like what is this nonsense from the article: > Oracle said its APIs are freely available to those who want to build applications for computers and mobile devices, but draws the line at anyone who wants to use them for a competing platform or to embed them in an electronic device.