So we don't want to punish the well run farms that don't pollute. But you can't "tax" only the offenders, because that's just...a fine. It's a punitive financia

So we don't want to punish the well run farms that don't pollute. But you can't "tax" only the offenders, because that's just...a fine. It's a punitive financial incentive when you pollute, that's regulation and fines. You can make the fines extreme so that people won't ignore them, but they're still not taxes. I think we're just arguing semantics over what the difference between a fine and a tax are.