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I don't see why perceived usage share in industry should motivate dissing open source devs. GIMP has a user base and fans who obviously think it's good enough f

I don't see why perceived usage share in industry should motivate dissing open source devs. GIMP has a user base and fans who obviously think it's good enough for their needs. If the professionals in the industry and their employers have a need for an all-in-one free software that can do everything - image editing, illustrations, maybe throw in 3D and animations while we are at it - then the industry should contribute towards building it. All the building blocks are available, thanks to those dodgy open source devs.

Karunamon 9y ago
What can be and what is are two different things. GIMP is not a serious competitor to Photoshop, full stop. So long as there is no serious competitor to Photoshop, that's a huge swath of the professional world (and much of the non-professional) that won't ever give Linux the time of day. There's a reason that Photoshop is teetering dangerously close to being a genercised trademark! And I think the attitude comes in when GIMP is ignorantly held up as if it were a serious competitor. It isn't. It's something else entirely. It might be good enough for people to make memes for internet shitposting, but between the missing features and the alien UI (to the point where a massive reskin [1] was around for a while), it's never going to be used in industry. If the GIMP devs want to continue down this path, more power to 'em, I just want the people claiming that it's a Photoshop competitor to educate themselves :) [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop
- lovelearning 9y ago
  This thread seems to be full of people making baseless assumptions about GIMP that I don't see the GIMP devs themselves make or any open source enthusiast make. Who here is claiming GIMP is a serious competitor to Photoshop, or even a competitor at all? Even the GIMP team doesn't (https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#are-you-trying-to-develop-a-photoshop-killer-app https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#are-you-trying-to-dev...). Or that GIMP is targeting graphics professionals or graphics industry? Don't think so... "We do, however, acknowledge the fact that people will treat GIMP as Photoshop replacement no matter what we tell them, and that’s all right with us. You own this software, it’s up to you to decide how you make use of it." It is what it is. A tool. That happens to be free and is good enough for some. As somebody above said, it's like complaining why emacs / kate / geany or whatever editor can't do something that visual studio can. If the industry wants a serious competitor to Photoshop, time for them to start building it anew or taking existing free tools nearer to that goal or funding open source devs to do it for them. Complaining and ranting against open source devs who have zero obligations to the industry is not going to achieve anything.
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    To pretend that any of the things said about GIMP in this thread are "baseless" are to stick your head in the sand.
    - prokoudine 9y ago
      Fair enough. _Most_ things said about GIMP in this thread are complete and utter made-up bullshit that won't stand fact-checking. How about that? Better? :)
      - s73v3r_ 9y ago
        No. Most things said about GIMP and the developers are said because they have basis in reality.

Karunamon 9y ago

What can be and what is are two different things. GIMP is not a serious competitor to Photoshop, full stop. So long as there is no serious competitor to Photoshop, that's a huge swath of the professional world (and much of the non-professional) that won't ever give Linux the time of day. There's a reason that Photoshop is teetering dangerously close to being a genercised trademark! And I think the attitude comes in when GIMP is ignorantly held up as if it were a serious competitor. It isn't. It's something else entirely. It might be good enough for people to make memes for internet shitposting, but between the missing features and the alien UI (to the point where a massive reskin [1] was around for a while), it's never going to be used in industry. If the GIMP devs want to continue down this path, more power to 'em, I just want the people claiming that it's a Photoshop competitor to educate themselves :) [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop

lovelearning 9y ago
This thread seems to be full of people making baseless assumptions about GIMP that I don't see the GIMP devs themselves make or any open source enthusiast make. Who here is claiming GIMP is a serious competitor to Photoshop, or even a competitor at all? Even the GIMP team doesn't (https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#are-you-trying-to-develop-a-photoshop-killer-app https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#are-you-trying-to-dev...). Or that GIMP is targeting graphics professionals or graphics industry? Don't think so... "We do, however, acknowledge the fact that people will treat GIMP as Photoshop replacement no matter what we tell them, and that’s all right with us. You own this software, it’s up to you to decide how you make use of it." It is what it is. A tool. That happens to be free and is good enough for some. As somebody above said, it's like complaining why emacs / kate / geany or whatever editor can't do something that visual studio can. If the industry wants a serious competitor to Photoshop, time for them to start building it anew or taking existing free tools nearer to that goal or funding open source devs to do it for them. Complaining and ranting against open source devs who have zero obligations to the industry is not going to achieve anything.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  To pretend that any of the things said about GIMP in this thread are "baseless" are to stick your head in the sand.
  - prokoudine 9y ago
    Fair enough. _Most_ things said about GIMP in this thread are complete and utter made-up bullshit that won't stand fact-checking. How about that? Better? :)
    - s73v3r_ 9y ago
      No. Most things said about GIMP and the developers are said because they have basis in reality.