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What kind of ridiculous project structure do you have? I have never in my ~5 or so years of using Android Studio have had to do something as drastic as that. I

by barbs 9y ago

What kind of ridiculous project structure do you have? I have never in my ~5 or so years of using Android Studio have had to do something as drastic as that. I have occasionally have had issues with updating, but this has required a tweak in the gradle file and an update of build tools, at most.

V-2 9y ago
My experience (full-time Android dev) falls somewhat in the middle. This sort of compatibility breaking was fairly common back in the AS 1.X/early 2.X days. As of now, it's really rare, and usually resolves automatically.
sankalp_sans 9y ago
> What kind of ridiculous project structure do you have? Obviously one that was supported in every preceding version of Android Studio. When making consumer-facing tools, it is the job of the tool maker to make sure that it doesn't break. If something works in a version, and breaks in another, guess who is to be blamed? (hint: not the user)
dheera 9y ago
Let's see, I just upgraded to Android Studio 3.1, opened one of my previous ridiculously simple apps, and voila: Could not find com.android.tools.build:gradle:3.0.1. Searched in the following locations: https://jcenter.bintray.com/com/android/tools/build/gradle/3.0.1/gradle-3.0.1.pom https://jcenter.bintray.com/com/android/tools/build/gradle/3.0.1/gradle-3.0.1.jar Required by: project : Add Google Maven repository and sync project Open File Okay, I hit the "Add Google Maven repository and sync project", and now we have: Could not GET 'https://jcenter.bintray.com/org/ow2/asm/asm/5.1/asm-5.1.pom'. Received status code 502 from server: Bad Gateway Enable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project I don't know what the hell any of this means -- I'm not a Java/Gradle/etc. person at all, just forced to use this pile of mess for Android -- so I cluelessly hit "Enable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project" hoping it will resolve the error, and now: No cached version of org.ow2.asm:asm:5.1 available for offline mode. Disable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project Created a new project and it compiled successfully. Cut-and-paste classes, here we come! On another note, creating a blank Android app results in nothing short of 87 files. Does it really have to be this complicated? Do we really have to use this gradle nonsense? (90%+ of the errors I get hen upgrading Android Studio say something about gradle). Most frameworks on other platforms are simple and elegant enough that it is possible to memorize the minimal "hello world" example and implement it with vim, and the IDE is just there for convenience, not out of necessity.
- seviu 9y ago
  Bintray is having major outages today. That explains the 502

by barbs 9y ago

V-2 9y ago

My experience (full-time Android dev) falls somewhat in the middle. This sort of compatibility breaking was fairly common back in the AS 1.X/early 2.X days. As of now, it's really rare, and usually resolves automatically.

sankalp_sans 9y ago

> What kind of ridiculous project structure do you have? Obviously one that was supported in every preceding version of Android Studio. When making consumer-facing tools, it is the job of the tool maker to make sure that it doesn't break. If something works in a version, and breaks in another, guess who is to be blamed? (hint: not the user)

dheera 9y ago

Let's see, I just upgraded to Android Studio 3.1, opened one of my previous ridiculously simple apps, and voila: Could not find com.android.tools.build:gradle:3.0.1. Searched in the following locations: https://jcenter.bintray.com/com/android/tools/build/gradle/3.0.1/gradle-3.0.1.pom https://jcenter.bintray.com/com/android/tools/build/gradle/3.0.1/gradle-3.0.1.jar Required by: project : Add Google Maven repository and sync project Open File Okay, I hit the "Add Google Maven repository and sync project", and now we have: Could not GET 'https://jcenter.bintray.com/org/ow2/asm/asm/5.1/asm-5.1.pom'. Received status code 502 from server: Bad Gateway Enable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project I don't know what the hell any of this means -- I'm not a Java/Gradle/etc. person at all, just forced to use this pile of mess for Android -- so I cluelessly hit "Enable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project" hoping it will resolve the error, and now: No cached version of org.ow2.asm:asm:5.1 available for offline mode. Disable Gradle 'offline mode' and sync project Created a new project and it compiled successfully. Cut-and-paste classes, here we come! On another note, creating a blank Android app results in nothing short of 87 files. Does it really have to be this complicated? Do we really have to use this gradle nonsense? (90%+ of the errors I get hen upgrading Android Studio say something about gradle). Most frameworks on other platforms are simple and elegant enough that it is possible to memorize the minimal "hello world" example and implement it with vim, and the IDE is just there for convenience, not out of necessity.

seviu 9y ago
Bintray is having major outages today. That explains the 502