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Oh My zsh

41 points by fogus 16y ago

dreur 16y ago
Personally I use ZshKit : http://github.com/dreur/zshkit http://github.com/dreur/zshkit
cageface 16y ago
I once had a fairly elaborate zsh setup but over the years I've gradually migrated back to a more minimalistic bash environment instead. The dwim of some of the more exotic zsh completion functions just didn't seem to save me that much time in practice.
- akkartik 16y ago
  git's completion especially has gotten so elaborate that it takes too friggin' long. And my shell's frozen while I wait. I just disabled it. But why would you switch back to bash? Even if you don't use some of the advanced zsh features?
  - cageface 16y ago
    Bash is everywhere. It's simple. It's predictable. It just works. It does the things I need it to do. If you use the bash-completion functions in Debian you can even get pretty extensive completion features.
    - silentbicycle 16y ago
      > Bash is everywhere No, it isn't. Here's the Unix spec (http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/ http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/), search it for bash and you won't get anything. That's a Linuxism (http://www.google.com/#q=linuxism http://www.google.com/#q=linuxism), but it's not even on every kind of Linux. The only standard shell on Unix is the bourne shell, and having things break because someone ignorantly hardcoded bash without using any bash-specific extensions is really annoying. I agree it's worth the time to find a shell you like and customize it, but that's not a good reason to pick bash.
      - lukehasnoname 16y ago
        Which Linux distros with more than 5 downloads DON'T have bash as the login shell?
        AlecSchueler 16y ago
        zsh is the login shell on PureDyne as far as I remember. It does have bash installed by default though.
        silentbicycle 16y ago
        http://openwrt.org/ http://openwrt.org/ , and embedded stuff in general, because bash is incredibly bloated.
        Mod_daniel 16y ago
        Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't OpenWrt run on on busybox? Which is pretty much just a stripped down conglomerated bash?
        silentbicycle 16y ago
        bash refers to a specific shell implementation, not the whole userland utilities (AKA the "coreutils"). BusyBox combines a bunch of Linux userland utilities into one executable, to save overhead on embedded systems. It uses ash, not bash.
        bch 16y ago
        Of course BSD isn't Linux, but NetBSD, FreeBSD, and surely (I'm guessing) OpenBSD don't have Bash installed by default. I'd bet Dragonfly is same.
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      - cageface 16y ago
Symmetry 16y ago
Ah, I was sort of hoping to find that someone had made a theme with syntax highlighting as useful as fish's.
marshally 16y ago
I currently use oh-my-zsh on a daily basis, but recently I've been thinking about switching back to the plain old bash shell. I have been frequently stung when new libraries come out that only support bash.
pilif 16y ago
For those wondering about the advantages of ZSH over, say, bash: ZSH was first to add programmable completions (and still comes with a huge library of these), many more configuration options, history merging and much more. It also has a huge library of built-ins (even an FTP client). People could call it bloated, but I see no difference in performance from Bash, so for me personally, that argument is moot. What really made ZSH gain a spot in my heart though, is the user-friendly user's guide at http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Guide/ http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Guide/ This is how I learned to use the Unix shell back in 2000. It's not just a brilliant introduction into ZSH itself, it also contains a lot of information about the Unix shell in general and all written in a way that a non-Unix user can easily understand it and very quickly learn all that's needed to be productive on the command line. Using that guide and ZSH, I learned the Unix shell, so I never bothered to go back to Bash. Besides, being able to do scp fi<tab> servern<tab>:/so<tab> to have it completed to scp file servername.example.com:/somepath is just brilliant. Same goes for contents of tar.(g|b)z(ip|2) archives. Or git commands. Or svn commands. It's wonderful. Sorry. Being a fanboy here.
- chousuke 16y ago
  I have to agree, zsh is a great shell. My only gripe with it is that compiling it on OS X is a pain in the arse because it depends on a weird documentation language called "yodl" which I haven't so far managed to install. It has some weird custom build system that doesn't seem to work. It's a shame since I'd like the up-to-date git completions, but because I can't compile zsh I'm stuck with release versions :(
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  - ptomato 16y ago
    Have you checked out homebrew? Similar to macports/fink except much, much better, available here: http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew In particular, their recipe for zsh compilation might help you even if you don't want to install brew itself: http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/zsh.rb http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/...
tednaleid 16y ago
I do something similar to this and have the majority of my zshrc version controlled and publicly available. http://bitbucket.org/tednaleid/shared-zshrc http://bitbucket.org/tednaleid/shared-zshrc I put together a blog post on how to use it along with some descriptions of specific aliases/functions that I find really useful: http://naleid.com/blog/2009/05/13/shared-zshrc-file/ http://naleid.com/blog/2009/05/13/shared-zshrc-file/ Global aliases are one of the things I love about zshrc. In addition to that, the file globbing is a huge productivity benefit. Being able to use "/foo.txt", rather than "find . -name foo.txt" is nice. I think that everyone should also learn the cursor movement keybindings (which default to the emacs ones instead of vi ones). I think these might be the same in bash (where C is control and M is meta, likely alt/option or escape): * C-r - search backwards through history * C-a - beginning of line * M-b - move back one word * C-b - move back one letter * C-f - move forward one letter * M-f - move forward one word * C-e - end of line * C-s - search forwards through history
mxavier 16y ago
This will be great. I've been using zsh for probably a year now but I'm definitely underutilizing it. vi mode for zsh seems to be better implemented in zsh and thats something I could definitely not survive without.

41 points by fogus 16y ago

dreur 16y ago

Personally I use ZshKit : http://github.com/dreur/zshkit http://github.com/dreur/zshkit

I once had a fairly elaborate zsh setup but over the years I've gradually migrated back to a more minimalistic bash environment instead. The dwim of some of the more exotic zsh completion functions just didn't seem to save me that much time in practice.

akkartik 16y ago
git's completion especially has gotten so elaborate that it takes too friggin' long. And my shell's frozen while I wait. I just disabled it. But why would you switch back to bash? Even if you don't use some of the advanced zsh features?
- cageface 16y ago
  Bash is everywhere. It's simple. It's predictable. It just works. It does the things I need it to do. If you use the bash-completion functions in Debian you can even get pretty extensive completion features.
  - silentbicycle 16y ago
    > Bash is everywhere No, it isn't. Here's the Unix spec (http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/ http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/), search it for bash and you won't get anything. That's a Linuxism (http://www.google.com/#q=linuxism http://www.google.com/#q=linuxism), but it's not even on every kind of Linux. The only standard shell on Unix is the bourne shell, and having things break because someone ignorantly hardcoded bash without using any bash-specific extensions is really annoying. I agree it's worth the time to find a shell you like and customize it, but that's not a good reason to pick bash.
    - lukehasnoname 16y ago
      Which Linux distros with more than 5 downloads DON'T have bash as the login shell?
      - AlecSchueler 16y ago
        zsh is the login shell on PureDyne as far as I remember. It does have bash installed by default though.
      - silentbicycle 16y ago
        http://openwrt.org/ http://openwrt.org/ , and embedded stuff in general, because bash is incredibly bloated.
        Mod_daniel 16y ago
        Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't OpenWrt run on on busybox? Which is pretty much just a stripped down conglomerated bash?
        silentbicycle 16y ago
        bash refers to a specific shell implementation, not the whole userland utilities (AKA the "coreutils"). BusyBox combines a bunch of Linux userland utilities into one executable, to save overhead on embedded systems. It uses ash, not bash.
      - bch 16y ago
        Of course BSD isn't Linux, but NetBSD, FreeBSD, and surely (I'm guessing) OpenBSD don't have Bash installed by default. I'd bet Dragonfly is same.
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    - cageface 16y ago

Symmetry 16y ago

Ah, I was sort of hoping to find that someone had made a theme with syntax highlighting as useful as fish's.

marshally 16y ago

I currently use oh-my-zsh on a daily basis, but recently I've been thinking about switching back to the plain old bash shell. I have been frequently stung when new libraries come out that only support bash.

pilif 16y ago

For those wondering about the advantages of ZSH over, say, bash: ZSH was first to add programmable completions (and still comes with a huge library of these), many more configuration options, history merging and much more. It also has a huge library of built-ins (even an FTP client). People could call it bloated, but I see no difference in performance from Bash, so for me personally, that argument is moot. What really made ZSH gain a spot in my heart though, is the user-friendly user's guide at http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Guide/ http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Guide/ This is how I learned to use the Unix shell back in 2000. It's not just a brilliant introduction into ZSH itself, it also contains a lot of information about the Unix shell in general and all written in a way that a non-Unix user can easily understand it and very quickly learn all that's needed to be productive on the command line. Using that guide and ZSH, I learned the Unix shell, so I never bothered to go back to Bash. Besides, being able to do scp fi<tab> servern<tab>:/so<tab> to have it completed to scp file servername.example.com:/somepath is just brilliant. Same goes for contents of tar.(g|b)z(ip|2) archives. Or git commands. Or svn commands. It's wonderful. Sorry. Being a fanboy here.

chousuke 16y ago
I have to agree, zsh is a great shell. My only gripe with it is that compiling it on OS X is a pain in the arse because it depends on a weird documentation language called "yodl" which I haven't so far managed to install. It has some weird custom build system that doesn't seem to work. It's a shame since I'd like the up-to-date git completions, but because I can't compile zsh I'm stuck with release versions :(
- deleted 16y ago
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- ptomato 16y ago
  Have you checked out homebrew? Similar to macports/fink except much, much better, available here: http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew In particular, their recipe for zsh compilation might help you even if you don't want to install brew itself: http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/zsh.rb http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/...

tednaleid 16y ago

I do something similar to this and have the majority of my zshrc version controlled and publicly available. http://bitbucket.org/tednaleid/shared-zshrc http://bitbucket.org/tednaleid/shared-zshrc I put together a blog post on how to use it along with some descriptions of specific aliases/functions that I find really useful: http://naleid.com/blog/2009/05/13/shared-zshrc-file/ http://naleid.com/blog/2009/05/13/shared-zshrc-file/ Global aliases are one of the things I love about zshrc. In addition to that, the file globbing is a huge productivity benefit. Being able to use "/foo.txt", rather than "find . -name foo.txt" is nice. I think that everyone should also learn the cursor movement keybindings (which default to the emacs ones instead of vi ones). I think these might be the same in bash (where C is control and M is meta, likely alt/option or escape): * C-r - search backwards through history * C-a - beginning of line * M-b - move back one word * C-b - move back one letter * C-f - move forward one letter * M-f - move forward one word * C-e - end of line * C-s - search forwards through history

mxavier 16y ago

This will be great. I've been using zsh for probably a year now but I'm definitely underutilizing it. vi mode for zsh seems to be better implemented in zsh and thats something I could definitely not survive without.