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I know an organization that switched to Office365 some time ago— from Google Entreprise / G suite: Some people do use Google tools on the side, using personal

I know an organization that switched to Office365 some time ago— from Google Entreprise / G suite: Some people do use Google tools on the side, using personal accounts for collaborating on documents (presentations, docs). They don’t necessarily know the organization was using them before, it’s like they’re bringing them inside as a new tool. Many exchange many MS Office words via e-mail (using desktop email clients). People use WeTransfer for sharing files internally or with contractors. People used to use Google Drive for sharing static files and it seems that this shared drive usage stopped and that people are not using OneDrive, relying on email and wetransfer. (I would not be surprised if some team Slack exist somewhere or I’m pretty sure many use their Facebook messengers to send quick links and references) As far as I know, the only consistently used Office365 tools are Mail and Calendar. Office365 doesn’t seem to induce the same collaborative patterns that Google Drive induce at all. Mostly it feels communication and collaboration are like 10 years or more ago: email is king, versioning is absent, and people use external tools when they feel it’s quicker and better (at odd with the organization policies of course) PS: I’ll add that all of my students are used to Google Drive tools, using Docs and Presentations regularly. It grew progressively over the year, and now it’s very rare to encounter a student who never used Google Drive. I teach to 150+ students each year, so I’d say it’s representative of a new wave of professionals who take real-time collaborative tools for granted (and will be sorely disappointed by tools and process in the organizations they’re about to join)

sleepychu 9y ago
That's par for the course though. I used linux almost exclusively at Uni. I've never worked at a large org that deploys linux (even at the comparative cost) because Windows provides them with the domain tools they need.
cc81 9y ago
Microsoft seems to be working very hard to get people to collaborate using Microsoft Teams and SharePoint sites for the projects you are involved in the office. They also seem to invest pretty heavily in making in a developer platform so you can extend it. https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/graph https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/graph (and as you can see from the picture of the developer it is very hip)
- pjc50 9y ago
  Teams replicates Slack, right down to the ridiculous memory usage.
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    Not related to your post, but I just need to tell someone. Literally nobody in my company has managed to understand the threaded messaging in Teams, even after it's pointed out/explained to them.
  - frogfuzion 9y ago
    We are trying so hard to use Teams, but the performance is just not up to snuff. They took a shortcut using Electron to get it cross-platform. For such a large pervasive company, I don't think this shortcut is worth it as they should have just invested in native like their other desktop apps. It's going to hurt them long term in my opinion. I even submitted a user voice about the memory issue and slow UI.
    - mulletbum 9y ago
      Pretty sure they are working on a Universal App for Windows. Which means many of your concerns could be addressed. I haven't noticed any issues with the OSX version, but I don't use my Mac much.
_pmf_ 9y ago
> I know an organization that switched to Office365 some time ago— from Google Entreprise / G suite Smart move. Microsoft has a proven track record of long term commitment to products. Google has a proven track record of not being committed to products.
- discordance 9y ago
  Google, founded 1998. Gmail, first release 2004. Google docs, first release 2006. Not too bad?
  - sireat 9y ago
    Google Reader first release 2005, discontinued 2013. Google Code Search was another notable casualty and many others. Now, one can point to Microsoft's web authoring efforts having cancelled a number of products(Frontpage etc) as well as cancelling Silverlight, VB6 etc etc. Still MS Office Suite seems significantly more important to Microsoft than Google Docs is to Google.
pmelendez 9y ago
> As far as I know, the only consistently used Office365 tools are Mail and Calendar. O365 includes desktops app, so they are probably using Word, Excel and powerpoint already

sleepychu 9y ago

That's par for the course though. I used linux almost exclusively at Uni. I've never worked at a large org that deploys linux (even at the comparative cost) because Windows provides them with the domain tools they need.

cc81 9y ago

Microsoft seems to be working very hard to get people to collaborate using Microsoft Teams and SharePoint sites for the projects you are involved in the office. They also seem to invest pretty heavily in making in a developer platform so you can extend it. https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/graph https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/graph (and as you can see from the picture of the developer it is very hip)

pjc50 9y ago
Teams replicates Slack, right down to the ridiculous memory usage.
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  Not related to your post, but I just need to tell someone. Literally nobody in my company has managed to understand the threaded messaging in Teams, even after it's pointed out/explained to them.
- frogfuzion 9y ago
  We are trying so hard to use Teams, but the performance is just not up to snuff. They took a shortcut using Electron to get it cross-platform. For such a large pervasive company, I don't think this shortcut is worth it as they should have just invested in native like their other desktop apps. It's going to hurt them long term in my opinion. I even submitted a user voice about the memory issue and slow UI.
  - mulletbum 9y ago
    Pretty sure they are working on a Universal App for Windows. Which means many of your concerns could be addressed. I haven't noticed any issues with the OSX version, but I don't use my Mac much.

_pmf_ 9y ago

> I know an organization that switched to Office365 some time ago— from Google Entreprise / G suite Smart move. Microsoft has a proven track record of long term commitment to products. Google has a proven track record of not being committed to products.

discordance 9y ago
Google, founded 1998. Gmail, first release 2004. Google docs, first release 2006. Not too bad?
- sireat 9y ago
  Google Reader first release 2005, discontinued 2013. Google Code Search was another notable casualty and many others. Now, one can point to Microsoft's web authoring efforts having cancelled a number of products(Frontpage etc) as well as cancelling Silverlight, VB6 etc etc. Still MS Office Suite seems significantly more important to Microsoft than Google Docs is to Google.

pmelendez 9y ago

> As far as I know, the only consistently used Office365 tools are Mail and Calendar. O365 includes desktops app, so they are probably using Word, Excel and powerpoint already