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Does that not fit the definition of artificial intelligence? The system makes decisions – ones that would be otherwise done by a human – based on its perception

Does that not fit the definition of artificial intelligence? The system makes decisions – ones that would be otherwise done by a human – based on its perception of the world. That is what I have always understood AI to mean. To be sure, a conventional ABS system does not use machine learning, but machine learning is only a subset of AI.

skgoa 9y ago
The core of this debate is the matter of what intelligence actually is. We don't really know, but the most common definition I have heard/read is that intelligence is the ability to generate new solutions when presented with previously unseen input. An ABS would not qualify under this definition, because its output is predefined rigorously for all possible combinations of input values.
- randomdata 9y ago
  On the other hand, artificial intelligence is not actual intelligence. The definition of artificial intelligence is the ability to perform a task that would normally require human intelligence. An ABS system would fit into this definition as it is a task that normally would require human sensing the conditions to know how to apply the breaks. Although I can see why some point out that AI is a moving target, representing only what still seems 'magical'. If you showed an ABS system to someone in the early 1900s, I truly believe they would see it as some kind of intelligence. Now that we have acclimated to the technology, we don't see it the same way.
  - lolikoisuru 9y ago
    >The definition of artificial intelligence is the ability to perform a task that would normally require human intelligence. Do you have any specific sources that define it as that? >An ABS system would fit into this definition as it is a task that normally would require human sensing the conditions to know how to apply the breaks. Responding to stimuli does not require any intelligence, let alone human intelligence.
    - randomdata 9y ago
      > Do you have any specific sources that define it as that? Several definitions as provided by a Google Search. > Responding to stimuli does not require any intelligence, let alone human intelligence. Which is why we call it artificial intelligence instead of intelligence. If these systems were actually intelligent, there would be no reason to add the artificial moniker. We specifically call the types of systems artificial intelligence on recognition that it is not actually what we consider real intelligence. I agree, there is nothing intelligent about an ABS system, and nobody is labeling it as intelligent.
      - jdmichal 9y ago
        "Artificial" is opposed to "natural", not "genuine". It's a synonym of "machine intelligence". It's a comment on the fact that the intelligence has been artificially created in a machine. It is not in any way about the current capabilities of artificial intelligence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence > Artificial intelligence (AI, also machine intelligence, MI) is intelligence demonstrated by machines, in contrast to the natural intelligence (NI) displayed by humans and other animals.
      - lolikoisuru 9y ago
        >I agree, there is nothing intelligent about an ABS system, and nobody is labeling it as intelligent. Artificial intelligence is intelligence, just made artificially instead of organically. You clearly have no understanding of the term so you should probably shut up.
lolikoisuru 9y ago
By this definition almost all software would be an AI. Making decisions or reacting to stimuli does not necessarily require any form of intelligence. You probably meant automation instead of "AI".
8note 9y ago
You wouldn't consider it AI because it's good at it's job. We only consider things to be AI while they suck at making decisions.

skgoa 9y ago

The core of this debate is the matter of what intelligence actually is. We don't really know, but the most common definition I have heard/read is that intelligence is the ability to generate new solutions when presented with previously unseen input. An ABS would not qualify under this definition, because its output is predefined rigorously for all possible combinations of input values.

randomdata 9y ago
On the other hand, artificial intelligence is not actual intelligence. The definition of artificial intelligence is the ability to perform a task that would normally require human intelligence. An ABS system would fit into this definition as it is a task that normally would require human sensing the conditions to know how to apply the breaks. Although I can see why some point out that AI is a moving target, representing only what still seems 'magical'. If you showed an ABS system to someone in the early 1900s, I truly believe they would see it as some kind of intelligence. Now that we have acclimated to the technology, we don't see it the same way.
- lolikoisuru 9y ago
  >The definition of artificial intelligence is the ability to perform a task that would normally require human intelligence. Do you have any specific sources that define it as that? >An ABS system would fit into this definition as it is a task that normally would require human sensing the conditions to know how to apply the breaks. Responding to stimuli does not require any intelligence, let alone human intelligence.
  - randomdata 9y ago
    > Do you have any specific sources that define it as that? Several definitions as provided by a Google Search. > Responding to stimuli does not require any intelligence, let alone human intelligence. Which is why we call it artificial intelligence instead of intelligence. If these systems were actually intelligent, there would be no reason to add the artificial moniker. We specifically call the types of systems artificial intelligence on recognition that it is not actually what we consider real intelligence. I agree, there is nothing intelligent about an ABS system, and nobody is labeling it as intelligent.
    - jdmichal 9y ago
      "Artificial" is opposed to "natural", not "genuine". It's a synonym of "machine intelligence". It's a comment on the fact that the intelligence has been artificially created in a machine. It is not in any way about the current capabilities of artificial intelligence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence > Artificial intelligence (AI, also machine intelligence, MI) is intelligence demonstrated by machines, in contrast to the natural intelligence (NI) displayed by humans and other animals.
    - lolikoisuru 9y ago
      >I agree, there is nothing intelligent about an ABS system, and nobody is labeling it as intelligent. Artificial intelligence is intelligence, just made artificially instead of organically. You clearly have no understanding of the term so you should probably shut up.

lolikoisuru 9y ago

By this definition almost all software would be an AI. Making decisions or reacting to stimuli does not necessarily require any form of intelligence. You probably meant automation instead of "AI".

8note 9y ago

You wouldn't consider it AI because it's good at it's job. We only consider things to be AI while they suck at making decisions.