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I've been putting off posting this for months because when I write it, it seems grandiose but it's been my life and it's too ridiculous not to share. I was bor

I've been putting off posting this for months because when I write it, it seems grandiose but it's been my life and it's too ridiculous not to share. I was born in 80 so that dates me. I've worked in music for the last 20 years and I've worked with over 60 bands most of whom are very successful now. However that number is misleading because I've toured with hundreds of bands if you count the openers and headliners over the years. It's stupid really when I look back on it. Once when I was 25 I used my network to start a music festival with no money that's been going on for the last 10 years and has never had less than 50k people attend. Anyways long story short most people don't understand marketing. But when you're touring you're living it. I remember when the words taste maker started getting thrown around. I remember when gorilla marketing became a thing... Because the marketing people would all be coming to our shows and our parties and sponsoring us. All of this to say that We were early adopters of Friendster, when they killed the bulletin board my friends and I moved to MySpace, when MySpace got over crowded we moved to Facebook, when our families friends got on Facebook we left for Twitter and reddit, the less public of us left Twitter almost immediately but our pr teams stayed, when Obama won in 08 we left reddit. Many of us went to snapchat and we all use Instagram even though we hate it. There was a minor period when we thought google + was going to serve us but that lasted exactly one day. What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application that has exactly one killer simple feature. A bulletin board to post events. That's it. A simple way to keep in touch with each other and local ownership of our photos and videos. Sure to reduce bandwidth we'd be fine with our friends or fans hosting encrypted files on their devices but that's as far as they go. Do that, slap an easy to use interface on it, don't have advertising call it something literal like friends torrent or something and we'll never have another Facebook. If you want to monotize it... Give it a market place. But if you take anything from this rant it should be this, your tastemakers aren't faceless nameless statistics they're real people and they're friends with each other. We know who we are and we are and have been paying attention. Also fuck Facebook freedom isn't free

firmgently 9y ago
Facebook's popularity is driven by that tic of just wanting to have a quick look to see what friends/family are up to, then getting stuck there because of addiction/manipulative techniques. I can't see people feeling the same way about a site which is only about events, it's a different impulse... almost like tuning in to an adverts-only station. Nobody is on FB because of bands - although they're happy to find out what bands are up to when they happen to already be on the site (not knocking bands as a thing - the same applies to eg. my art page). Some might say "it doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be as popular as FB" but at that point then why not just have a website?
EGreg 9y ago
Sounds like you want the Qbix Platform https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI
- jdeisenberg 9y ago
  Alas, the web site (https://qbix.com/people https://qbix.com/people) appears not to work on Firefox Developer Edition 60.0: “Unable to init adapter. App config is not defined.”
michaelchisari 9y ago
Do that, slap an easy to use interface on it What you're asking for is much more difficult than you realize.
- wizardforhire 9y ago
  I know (with lots love)! That's why I haven't built it. It's also why I don't think it has been built yet and why in my frustration this evening I sort of let loose.
brandmeyer 9y ago
> What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application ... we'd be fine with our friends or fans hosting encrypted files on their devices but that's as far as they go. What exactly are you trying to get out of encryption in this MinimalBook application of yours?
- wizardforhire 9y ago
  Privacy, security, rights Managment. Not quite State level but close (because does that even exist?). It's celebrities that travel nearly most days of the years. Every place that's always in the news for something terrible is probably a destination at somepoint. Also stalkers, extortionists, kidnappers, they're very real. Also and I would think probably more pertinent is that given current events, for something decentralized to take off and for content to be shared semi-locally amongst a partially trusted network it would have to be encrypted with some pretty large keys for it to pass the muster of the initial user base. A lot of these people had their nudes stolen from iCloud for instance. Granted a lot of that was fishing but still if it's going to be adopted people want encryption. It'd probably be smart to put in really big language at the time of install a general introduction to best security practices... And if you really want to be compassionate to the users and little notifier whose nuisance level could be dialed down that periodically reminds them.
  - tomcam 9y ago
    >It's celebrities that travel nearly most days of the years. Every place that's always in the news for something terrible is probably a destination at somepoint. Given that market, why not charge for MinimalBook as a premium experience instead of postulating an ill-defined “marketplace”?
  - brandmeyer 9y ago
    Here's the thing. Encryption only allows you to protect the channel of information between two parties. Once the other party has the information you shared, they can in turn share it with whomever they wish. You can establish a private network amongst your selected peers. But you cannot prevent your peers from violating the network's privacy, either purposefully or accidentally. No amount of encryption can do that.
chestervonwinch 9y ago
Have you looked at secure scuttlebutt with patchwork?
sriku 9y ago
Secure Scuttlebutt (Patchwork application), I think, has its heart in the right place. http://scuttlebot.io/ http://scuttlebot.io/
goocy 9y ago
Have you looked into ZeroNet? https://zeronet.io/ https://zeronet.io/ Seems to do what you need.
reitanqild 9y ago
> What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application that has exactly one killer simple feature. A bulletin board to post events. That's it. A simple way to keep in touch with each other and local ownership of our photos and videos. Sure to reduce bandwidth we'd be fine with our friends or fans hosting encrypted files on their devices but that's as far as they go. Do that, slap an easy to use interface on it, don't have advertising call it something literal like friends torrent or something and we'll never have another Facebook. If you want to monotize it... Give it a market place. I guess someone here should accept this challenge. Is there a way to inform you when someone think they have an acceptable solution?
flukus 9y ago
> What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application that has exactly one killer simple feature. A bulletin board to post events. That's it. A simple way to keep in touch with each other and local ownership of our photos and videos. Can't you do this with a mailing list? That handles the notification. A big standard website can do the rest like hosting photos.
ultimape 9y ago
"But if you take anything from this rant it should be this, your taste makers aren't faceless nameless statistics they're real people and they're friends with each other. We know who we are and we are and have been paying attention." This is why vendors such as Facebook etc. try so had to get their product to be installed on phones (and in a previous generation, cut deals with PC manufactures to be one of the crap-wares installed in their OS image). If they can't get in thru the front door, they aim for the side door or maintenance entrance. If I could root my phone, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, would be the first things properly removed and not simply "disabled". Indecently, I'm in the market for a rootable phone with a Samsung Note style digitizer support. The infection runs deep.

firmgently 9y ago

Facebook's popularity is driven by that tic of just wanting to have a quick look to see what friends/family are up to, then getting stuck there because of addiction/manipulative techniques. I can't see people feeling the same way about a site which is only about events, it's a different impulse... almost like tuning in to an adverts-only station. Nobody is on FB because of bands - although they're happy to find out what bands are up to when they happen to already be on the site (not knocking bands as a thing - the same applies to eg. my art page). Some might say "it doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be as popular as FB" but at that point then why not just have a website?

EGreg 9y ago

Sounds like you want the Qbix Platform https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI

jdeisenberg 9y ago
Alas, the web site (https://qbix.com/people https://qbix.com/people) appears not to work on Firefox Developer Edition 60.0: “Unable to init adapter. App config is not defined.”

michaelchisari 9y ago

Do that, slap an easy to use interface on it What you're asking for is much more difficult than you realize.

wizardforhire 9y ago
I know (with lots love)! That's why I haven't built it. It's also why I don't think it has been built yet and why in my frustration this evening I sort of let loose.

brandmeyer 9y ago

> What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application ... we'd be fine with our friends or fans hosting encrypted files on their devices but that's as far as they go. What exactly are you trying to get out of encryption in this MinimalBook application of yours?

wizardforhire 9y ago
Privacy, security, rights Managment. Not quite State level but close (because does that even exist?). It's celebrities that travel nearly most days of the years. Every place that's always in the news for something terrible is probably a destination at somepoint. Also stalkers, extortionists, kidnappers, they're very real. Also and I would think probably more pertinent is that given current events, for something decentralized to take off and for content to be shared semi-locally amongst a partially trusted network it would have to be encrypted with some pretty large keys for it to pass the muster of the initial user base. A lot of these people had their nudes stolen from iCloud for instance. Granted a lot of that was fishing but still if it's going to be adopted people want encryption. It'd probably be smart to put in really big language at the time of install a general introduction to best security practices... And if you really want to be compassionate to the users and little notifier whose nuisance level could be dialed down that periodically reminds them.
- tomcam 9y ago
  >It's celebrities that travel nearly most days of the years. Every place that's always in the news for something terrible is probably a destination at somepoint. Given that market, why not charge for MinimalBook as a premium experience instead of postulating an ill-defined “marketplace”?
- brandmeyer 9y ago
  Here's the thing. Encryption only allows you to protect the channel of information between two parties. Once the other party has the information you shared, they can in turn share it with whomever they wish. You can establish a private network amongst your selected peers. But you cannot prevent your peers from violating the network's privacy, either purposefully or accidentally. No amount of encryption can do that.

chestervonwinch 9y ago

Have you looked at secure scuttlebutt with patchwork?

sriku 9y ago

Secure Scuttlebutt (Patchwork application), I think, has its heart in the right place. http://scuttlebot.io/ http://scuttlebot.io/

goocy 9y ago

Have you looked into ZeroNet? https://zeronet.io/ https://zeronet.io/ Seems to do what you need.

reitanqild 9y ago

> What we desperately want is a decentralized encrypted locally hosted application that has exactly one killer simple feature. A bulletin board to post events. That's it. A simple way to keep in touch with each other and local ownership of our photos and videos. Sure to reduce bandwidth we'd be fine with our friends or fans hosting encrypted files on their devices but that's as far as they go. Do that, slap an easy to use interface on it, don't have advertising call it something literal like friends torrent or something and we'll never have another Facebook. If you want to monotize it... Give it a market place. I guess someone here should accept this challenge. Is there a way to inform you when someone think they have an acceptable solution?

flukus 9y ago

ultimape 9y ago

"But if you take anything from this rant it should be this, your taste makers aren't faceless nameless statistics they're real people and they're friends with each other. We know who we are and we are and have been paying attention." This is why vendors such as Facebook etc. try so had to get their product to be installed on phones (and in a previous generation, cut deals with PC manufactures to be one of the crap-wares installed in their OS image). If they can't get in thru the front door, they aim for the side door or maintenance entrance. If I could root my phone, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, would be the first things properly removed and not simply "disabled". Indecently, I'm in the market for a rootable phone with a Samsung Note style digitizer support. The infection runs deep.