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we did a similar thing. nobody can figure out why. gsuite is cool for a couple hundred people, when you dont want to pay for office licenses for everyone. it m
by spydum 9y ago
we did a similar thing. nobody can figure out why.
gsuite is cool for a couple hundred people, when you dont want to pay for office licenses for everyone. it makes even less sense when you already do.
there is a serious productivity delta between gsuite and o365, especially if you are like 90% of the other companies where Excel is king (no, sheets is not a suitable stand-in).
- skj 9y agoFYI Google used gsuite internally for its 20k-or-whatever engineers and, in my opinion, it works fantastically. (I'm a Google engineer)
- spydum 9y agoCollab tools are fabulous no doubt, but sheets feels entirely neglected and basic. Permissions model is clunky and gsuite governance is nonexistent - you have to buy a CASB license to do anything effectively. It's not a bad suite, I just think it's confused on some areas (don't even get me started on the chat/conference systems tho)
- tomnipotent 9y agoI'll bet money that accounting & finance teams at Google use Excel.
- nimchimpsky 9y agolol. Tru dat. Excel is a beast.
- rootsudo 9y agoHow do we find this out?
- intended 9y agoEmpirically we buy a company, tell the accounting team that we are changing to gsuite and see if the CTO gets fired, or the accounting team quits, or the company gets a hit. IF neither, Gsuite is ok.
- bronson 9y agoYes... yes, they do. Most of them use iPhones too.
- kevingadd 9y agoI'd leave a moderately-sized (like 5 pages) work gdoc page open on my work machine at Google and come back the next day and it was using 1gb of RAM. Fantastic is certainly one word for it.
- RobLach 9y agoExcel is a big one. It's used very technically and often by people who don't view themselves as technically capable so the lock-in is enormous. Not to mention that you can't do 1/4 of what Excel can do in sheets without writing a googleScript. Don't even try to open a 100 column 1,000,000 row spreadsheet (which are more common than most think) in Sheets.
- jessaustin 9y agoIf that operation happens more than a couple of times a year, the organization should have figured out an Excel replacement a long time ago. One possibility is that a human is doing something to each of some significant portion of those rows, in which case more data entry should take place earlier and closer to the business. If that isn't the case, then just write a damn report already! Actually there is one more possibility, that one or more goofballs in accounting just like to waste time "looking over the numbers and getting a feel for them". This generates lots of spurious questionably-motivated inquiries to business and IT people (who always blame the other party, when only accounting is to blame for their own vague feelings). In that case don't worry about fixing anything at the company, just get a different job somewhere else.
- int_19h 9y agoIt doesn't matter what the users "should do" when it comes to questions like competition and market share.
- justonepost 9y agoClearly you are not a power excel user. Excel is brilliant for such tables. The charting,manipulation, etl, and dramatic query functionality are astounding. In the right hands you can do truly amazing things. That said, there are some great cloud analytics offerings which are going to compete.
- jessaustin 9y agoLet's stipulate that excel gives you all the chart-formatting crap you need. Is that a reason to pull in a million rows, which is what GP is about? Surely a chart with a million things displayed is going to be awful, no matter how well formatted. A simple shell script could save these users hours of work, every time they touch this godawful sheet. Actual analytics tools would be even better.