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People in US don't really use Whatsapp. iOS users do use iMessage and Android use Hangouts.

phinnaeus 9y ago
Do android users actually uses Hangouts? I have a couple of friends on it but my understanding is that Android users (like myself) just stick with standard SMS/MMS in the US. Patiently waiting for Universal RCS to take off...
- saym 9y ago
  I know this is just anecdotal, but my friends and I do heavily use Hangouts. It doesn't have enough functionality on its own, but I've augmented our experience with a chatbot powered by https://github.com/hangoutsbot/hangoutsbot https://github.com/hangoutsbot/hangoutsbot. Obviously I don't think that this experience is typical, not everyone is a programmer or has a server on which to run it.
- becomingknown 9y ago
  Nope. Hangout is not at all a convenient app. Main Android apps after Whatsapp are Telegram, Kik, imo and WeChat.
- int_19h 9y ago
  Hangouts also does SMS. And, on Nexus phones at least, it does it by default.
antirez 9y ago
We non-US people will never understand this, sorry. Instead of staying in a single cross-platform system US people prolonged for other ~5 years the use of SMS that was non existing here for a long time, also paying the highest costs in the world per SMS more or less (AFAIK you used to pay even for receiving), and now are picking OS-specific platforms.
- nness 9y ago
  Also true for banking — The prominence of Apple and Android Pay is a direct response to the U.S. banking industries anti-competitive prices and poor adoption of global standards. Broadly speaking, Europe and SEA had contactless EMV chip payments well before the vendor-specific smartphone solutions.
gordon_freeman 9y ago
I don't see many people in the US carrying Android devices. Everyone I see seems to have iPhone. Android is more concentrated in Asian and South American countries IMO.
- nness 9y ago
  iOS and Samsung’s U.S. market share is now tied [...] iOS is up 3.7 percentage points year-over-year, to achieve 35 percent market share, while Samsung only grew 0.8 points, reaching a 35.2 percent share [...] Android is still far ahead in the U.S., with a 63.2 percent share to iOS’s 35 percent. https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/ios-and-samsung-market-share-now-tied-in-the-u-s/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/ios-and-samsung-market-sha...
mmcnl 9y ago
The rest of the world does.

Do android users actually uses Hangouts? I have a couple of friends on it but my understanding is that Android users (like myself) just stick with standard SMS/MMS in the US. Patiently waiting for Universal RCS to take off...

saym 9y ago
I know this is just anecdotal, but my friends and I do heavily use Hangouts. It doesn't have enough functionality on its own, but I've augmented our experience with a chatbot powered by https://github.com/hangoutsbot/hangoutsbot https://github.com/hangoutsbot/hangoutsbot. Obviously I don't think that this experience is typical, not everyone is a programmer or has a server on which to run it.
becomingknown 9y ago
Nope. Hangout is not at all a convenient app. Main Android apps after Whatsapp are Telegram, Kik, imo and WeChat.
int_19h 9y ago
Hangouts also does SMS. And, on Nexus phones at least, it does it by default.

antirez 9y ago

We non-US people will never understand this, sorry. Instead of staying in a single cross-platform system US people prolonged for other ~5 years the use of SMS that was non existing here for a long time, also paying the highest costs in the world per SMS more or less (AFAIK you used to pay even for receiving), and now are picking OS-specific platforms.

nness 9y ago
Also true for banking — The prominence of Apple and Android Pay is a direct response to the U.S. banking industries anti-competitive prices and poor adoption of global standards. Broadly speaking, Europe and SEA had contactless EMV chip payments well before the vendor-specific smartphone solutions.

gordon_freeman 9y ago

I don't see many people in the US carrying Android devices. Everyone I see seems to have iPhone. Android is more concentrated in Asian and South American countries IMO.

nness 9y ago
iOS and Samsung’s U.S. market share is now tied [...] iOS is up 3.7 percentage points year-over-year, to achieve 35 percent market share, while Samsung only grew 0.8 points, reaching a 35.2 percent share [...] Android is still far ahead in the U.S., with a 63.2 percent share to iOS’s 35 percent. https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/ios-and-samsung-market-share-now-tied-in-the-u-s/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/ios-and-samsung-market-sha...

mmcnl 9y ago

The rest of the world does.