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Someone who's working two jobs would disagree with you.

manigandham 9y ago
Disagree with what? That there are 24 hours in a day? They choose to spend that time working 2 jobs. I've done the same in the past. I've decided between buying dinner or getting gas to drive to work to earn enough to cover the commute in the first place. Eventually you make decisions to get you out of that life and into a better one. There's luck involved sure, but I absolutely reject any excuses as if it's completely out of your control.
- FranzFerdiNaN 9y ago
  I highly doubt you did those things you claim, because if you did you wouldn't say people "choose" to work two jobs and that it's just a matter of "deciding" to stop being poor.
  - manigandham 9y ago
    You don't think choices matter in making your life better? This is just as sad as thinking that things can also change overnight. No you don't just stop being poor, you plan and get yourself out of it, over a decade if that's what it takes. Either way it's still up to you.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  "They choose to spend that time working 2 jobs." Because otherwise you'd say they'd "choose" to starve or be homeless?
  - manigandham 9y ago
    This is tired sentiment. Yes, make a plan and get yourself out of it. Situations don't change instantly which is why there are always comments about how it seems impossible - but like any other large goal you only get there with slow steady progress. No matter how bad you think you have it, many others have climbed out of worse. So it's not about choosing to starve but about making those tiny decisions that build up to will eventually get you out of that life. Or you can choose to ignore all that and give up.
    - s73v3r_ 9y ago
      "This is tired sentiment." No, it's reality. It's what you choose to ignore while you blame others.
      - manigandham 9y ago
        You seem to be making an emotional argument. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm saying that life is in your control and your personal responsibility. Things happen to you, but you can always choose how to react and thereby overcome obstacles. Interestingly, you seem to saying that nobody in that position is at fault and are instead blaming everything else and "reality" which I find rather disingenuous at best. You either have control over your life or you don't, and if you think you don't then there's nothing to discuss and you can pontificate on the lack of free will I guess.

Disagree with what? That there are 24 hours in a day? They choose to spend that time working 2 jobs. I've done the same in the past. I've decided between buying dinner or getting gas to drive to work to earn enough to cover the commute in the first place. Eventually you make decisions to get you out of that life and into a better one. There's luck involved sure, but I absolutely reject any excuses as if it's completely out of your control.

FranzFerdiNaN 9y ago
I highly doubt you did those things you claim, because if you did you wouldn't say people "choose" to work two jobs and that it's just a matter of "deciding" to stop being poor.
- manigandham 9y ago
  You don't think choices matter in making your life better? This is just as sad as thinking that things can also change overnight. No you don't just stop being poor, you plan and get yourself out of it, over a decade if that's what it takes. Either way it's still up to you.
s73v3r_ 9y ago
"They choose to spend that time working 2 jobs." Because otherwise you'd say they'd "choose" to starve or be homeless?
- manigandham 9y ago
  This is tired sentiment. Yes, make a plan and get yourself out of it. Situations don't change instantly which is why there are always comments about how it seems impossible - but like any other large goal you only get there with slow steady progress. No matter how bad you think you have it, many others have climbed out of worse. So it's not about choosing to starve but about making those tiny decisions that build up to will eventually get you out of that life. Or you can choose to ignore all that and give up.
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    "This is tired sentiment." No, it's reality. It's what you choose to ignore while you blame others.
    - manigandham 9y ago
      You seem to be making an emotional argument. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm saying that life is in your control and your personal responsibility. Things happen to you, but you can always choose how to react and thereby overcome obstacles. Interestingly, you seem to saying that nobody in that position is at fault and are instead blaming everything else and "reality" which I find rather disingenuous at best. You either have control over your life or you don't, and if you think you don't then there's nothing to discuss and you can pontificate on the lack of free will I guess.