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If facebook’s engineering talent is top tier, then how come I have to recommend to everyone to delete that awful battery draining app.

radicalbyte 9y ago
It takes some amazing engineering talent to build an app which drains your battery that slowly whilst uploading "everything" on your phone to Facebook's servers? :-)
- DrScump 9y ago
  Well, at least it scales well in those tasks.
juicy-fruit 9y ago
What kind of counter point is that? If Apple has top tier talent, why do they ship an OS with a huge security vulnerability? With a map framework that has memory leaks? With a messaging app that messes up the order of messages? If Google has top tier talent, why did they create an OS that allowed a third party developer to siphon calls, contacts and messages? If this is your argument, then no company has top talent.
- daveFNbuck 9y ago
  If top tier is a low enough bar that Facebook, Google, and Apple can hire exclusively from it, then it doesn't mean much at all to be top tier anyway.
- geodel 9y ago
  Well the better answer would be that top talent either work on ads or server side infrastructure. For client side its user device, battery, RAM and money and they could care less once they have thrown a free app in the face of users.
- shrimpx 9y ago
  "no company has top talent" is much closer to the truth than your implied assumption that even companies drenched in top talent must deliver shit products.
rurban 9y ago
Because swooping up all mobile audio and transmit it over would be a management decision, certainly not engineering. This is what most likely drains the battery and your data plan. You cannot explain this amount of drainage with CPU only. Also swooping all kind of privacy data, like call logs, messages, contacts, calendar info is from management. Engineers really know better that this will be found out sooner and later, and then it's the end.
- goalieca 9y ago
  There's subtle exploits out there that efficiently manage to Hot-mic a phone and still use less battery than facebook.

radicalbyte 9y ago

It takes some amazing engineering talent to build an app which drains your battery that slowly whilst uploading "everything" on your phone to Facebook's servers? :-)

DrScump 9y ago
Well, at least it scales well in those tasks.

juicy-fruit 9y ago

What kind of counter point is that? If Apple has top tier talent, why do they ship an OS with a huge security vulnerability? With a map framework that has memory leaks? With a messaging app that messes up the order of messages? If Google has top tier talent, why did they create an OS that allowed a third party developer to siphon calls, contacts and messages? If this is your argument, then no company has top talent.

daveFNbuck 9y ago
If top tier is a low enough bar that Facebook, Google, and Apple can hire exclusively from it, then it doesn't mean much at all to be top tier anyway.
geodel 9y ago
Well the better answer would be that top talent either work on ads or server side infrastructure. For client side its user device, battery, RAM and money and they could care less once they have thrown a free app in the face of users.
shrimpx 9y ago
"no company has top talent" is much closer to the truth than your implied assumption that even companies drenched in top talent must deliver shit products.

rurban 9y ago

Because swooping up all mobile audio and transmit it over would be a management decision, certainly not engineering. This is what most likely drains the battery and your data plan. You cannot explain this amount of drainage with CPU only. Also swooping all kind of privacy data, like call logs, messages, contacts, calendar info is from management. Engineers really know better that this will be found out sooner and later, and then it's the end.

goalieca 9y ago
There's subtle exploits out there that efficiently manage to Hot-mic a phone and still use less battery than facebook.