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Wait 3 months and a new javascript framework will be en vogue.

gregoriol 9y ago
Deeply agree: React will be dead (maybe not internally at fb, but to the rest of the world) long before facebook goes dead. Whether you consider it a trend or a point-in-time technology, it will be surpassed by something quickly enough.
chrisco255 9y ago
As far as UI frameworks go, JS fatigue has slowed down dramatically in the past couple years.
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- antoineMoPa 9y ago
  What? I'm 24 and I already feel like I'm outdated in web dev, because: * Vue appeared in the last couple of years (At least I learned that) * Everyone uses React and I never wanted to use it because facebook. * npm is not cool now it's yarn * var is not cool now it's let * Babel is in every new project now, all your browser supporting mind is useless now. * Vue alone is not cool, now you have to use vue-x * Bootstrap is not cool, now it's materialize/bulma/whatever Everything is changing all the time. 1 year after you typed something, it is outdated or vulnerable because of some dependency.
  - chrisco255 9y ago
    Vue arrived in 2013 I believe, but it has gotten more popular in the past year. React's a good framework regardless of Facebook's flaws as a company. NPM's functionality has caught up with Yarn and NPM 5+ is pretty solid overall. The competition from Yarn was good for NPM and helped improve its design. But in terms of UI frameworks, we seem to have peaked. New frameworks are coming out, to be sure...but it seems like devs are pretty happy with React/Vue or React clones at this point.
    - antoineMoPa 9y ago
      Vue was originally released in 2014 according to Wikipedia, and as you say, it got popular in the past year or two. With this and all the stuff you mentioned, that's a lot of stuff happening in a small amount of time. That is not an environment to build a stable code base. Meanwhile, python changed one function in 7 years and everyone is complaining (print now needs parenthesis).
      - chrisco255 9y ago
        Haha, you're forgetting the whole Python 2 vs 3 fiasco. But also, if you look back at JS back in 2012/2013, there were 6 or 7 popular UI frameworks (AngularJS, Knockout, JQuery, Ember, etc). It was churning very fast. React has been dominant for 3 years now and I don't see it slowing down.
        antoineMoPa 9y ago
        I mentionned the print statement, which is honestly what was keeping most people from migrating to 3.
seattle_spring 9y ago
React has been "en vogue" for more than 2 years now. Do you have some information than we don't?

Deeply agree: React will be dead (maybe not internally at fb, but to the rest of the world) long before facebook goes dead. Whether you consider it a trend or a point-in-time technology, it will be surpassed by something quickly enough.

chrisco255 9y ago

As far as UI frameworks go, JS fatigue has slowed down dramatically in the past couple years.

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antoineMoPa 9y ago
What? I'm 24 and I already feel like I'm outdated in web dev, because: * Vue appeared in the last couple of years (At least I learned that) * Everyone uses React and I never wanted to use it because facebook. * npm is not cool now it's yarn * var is not cool now it's let * Babel is in every new project now, all your browser supporting mind is useless now. * Vue alone is not cool, now you have to use vue-x * Bootstrap is not cool, now it's materialize/bulma/whatever Everything is changing all the time. 1 year after you typed something, it is outdated or vulnerable because of some dependency.
- chrisco255 9y ago
  Vue arrived in 2013 I believe, but it has gotten more popular in the past year. React's a good framework regardless of Facebook's flaws as a company. NPM's functionality has caught up with Yarn and NPM 5+ is pretty solid overall. The competition from Yarn was good for NPM and helped improve its design. But in terms of UI frameworks, we seem to have peaked. New frameworks are coming out, to be sure...but it seems like devs are pretty happy with React/Vue or React clones at this point.
  - antoineMoPa 9y ago
    Vue was originally released in 2014 according to Wikipedia, and as you say, it got popular in the past year or two. With this and all the stuff you mentioned, that's a lot of stuff happening in a small amount of time. That is not an environment to build a stable code base. Meanwhile, python changed one function in 7 years and everyone is complaining (print now needs parenthesis).
    - chrisco255 9y ago
      Haha, you're forgetting the whole Python 2 vs 3 fiasco. But also, if you look back at JS back in 2012/2013, there were 6 or 7 popular UI frameworks (AngularJS, Knockout, JQuery, Ember, etc). It was churning very fast. React has been dominant for 3 years now and I don't see it slowing down.
      - antoineMoPa 9y ago
        I mentionned the print statement, which is honestly what was keeping most people from migrating to 3.

seattle_spring 9y ago

React has been "en vogue" for more than 2 years now. Do you have some information than we don't?