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> The standard “luxury” high-rise studio is 500 square feet. A one bedroom is maybe 700-900. Is that really unreasonable? first, just finding high rise studios
by lsc 9y ago
> The standard “luxury” high-rise studio is 500 square feet. A one bedroom is maybe 700-900. Is that really unreasonable?
first, just finding high rise studios built in the last two decades is really rough. Like I can't find any in silicon valley that aren't giant "lofts" that approach 1000sqft. Hell, the smallest studio I can find looking around now is the place I lived in redwood city; it was shit, built in the '60s, with a giant single pane window facing a major street near an intersection, so you could listen to all the people who have managed to disable the noise dampening capabilities of their vehicles. 600sqft. And it felt huge. I mean, not that I mind the extra space, but I totally would have given up a couple hundred square feet just for some decent noise insulation.
But... as to the actual question? if you made it proportionally cheaper? I'd totally buy or rent a 300sqft space with a shower and bathroom, if it were priced proportionally. Ideally, you setup the shower and commode in the same enclosure, japanese style, and then have the sink in the apartment.
The problem right now is that usually if you want to pay for less than 600sqft of space, you end up sharing some wreak of a single family home with five other people. or you live in a smaller studio built before double pane windows, with no thought given to isolating you from your neighbors.
I kinda like having public places; I'm a member of a few clubs, including 'the hacker dojo' in mountain view, and I do move some of my life there. I enjoy interacting with other people, but I need some private space, even if it's a small private space. I've lived in shared houses, and with the right people, it's okay, but it's really nice to have your own adytum to withdraw into, where you don't have to see or hear anyone.
>Most “luxury” multi family buildings use that word because the historical norm is that apartments only exist to cheaply house the poor. It just means they’re comparable in quality to suburban middle class houses (or are pretending to be).
I don't think that's true in silicon valley; most single family homes around here were built to working class standards in the '60s and '70s and are all around pretty terrible. For someone as soft as I am, they'd be intolerable if the climate was not such that you could sleep in a tent, and they are intolerable if you live in the flight path of the local airport or otherwise have significant noise outside. (I'm in a somewhat more modern place right now, on the approach to SJC, with triple pane windows. It's super loud if you open the windows, but if you button up, it's nice and quiet.)
- closeparen 9y agoYou might be interested in 77 Bluxome which does micro-studios in a mid-rise in SF [0]. Popped up in my apartment search a few times. Too small for me, might be closer to what you're looking for. But no apartment is going to be as cheap as splitting a house 6 ways: demand for an apartment of any kind vastly exceeds demand for marginal square feet, and the kitchen and bathroom imply certain fixed costs to split. Silicon Valley communities are deeply attached to their lack of high-rise construction and fight to keep it that way. Call your representatives to support SB 827 if you want to see ~8 stories along the Caltrain corridor. [0] http://www.equityapartments.com/san-francisco-bay/soma/77-bluxome-apartments http://www.equityapartments.com/san-francisco-bay/soma/77-bl...
- lsc 9y agoThat looks like about what I'm talking about, though I'd prefer it to be a condo, and to be in silicon valley proper; I'm not really cool enough to work in San Francisco and am intolerant of commutes. If we built more apartments, assuming people really do prefer to live in single family homes, I'd assume that apartments would get cheaper compared to single family homes, just because land is such a large portion of the cost of anything around here, and single family homes are usually single story around here. I've been following Scott Wiener on twitter, and yeah, I should do something.
- sjg007 9y agoEar plugs and heavy duty curtains should help.
- closeparen 9y agoEar plugs aren’t magic. They are appropriate to make dangerous noise levels tolerable, but don’t do much to remove the distracting information encoded in already-moderate sounds. They also reflect the sounds of my own body back into me, which practically guarantees insomnia. A white noise source is much more effective. (I use a box fan). Still not great against bass-heavy music next door but makes me pretty much impervious to street noise.
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