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I've seen a lot of #1, but not a whole lot of #2, and #3 seems to be pushing #2's agenda. Just curious on what "liberals" have had their online platforms remov

by fein 9y ago

I've seen a lot of #1, but not a whole lot of #2, and #3 seems to be pushing #2's agenda. Just curious on what "liberals" have had their online platforms removed. From my general experience with the internet since my youth, it seems that online discussion in unmoderated communities seems to be fairly "conservative" in that they are brutally honest and unwilling to accommodate others special interests.

laretluval 9y ago
TFA is an example of #2. But I agree that on the whole #1 seems a lot more common.
- fein 9y ago
  TFA didn't have a platform removed, the post is on tumblr on their own account, after all.
jim-jim-jim 9y ago
There has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. See troll farm operators like David Brock, Peter Daou, and their wine mom loyalists. I realize that is not the same thing as de-platforming somebody, but it's a deliberate sowing of FUD to bolster a reactionary agenda.
- AFNobody 9y ago
  With the exception of Jill Stein, who has been targeted? As far as I'm aware, the accusations against the Green party's candidate were credible. She also, frankly, is not really left of Clinton and has a number of ideas that are more "fringe nutters" and less politics.
  - Consultant32452 9y ago
    Jimmy Dore is the only one I'm familiar with.
    - AFNobody 9y ago
      Fair but a sample size I can count on one hand where none of them being a standard bearer for the Left doesn't really fill me with concern.
  - alphabettsy 9y ago
    Calling anyone on the left with reservations/questions about Clinton a Bernie Bro doesn’t ring a bell?
    - zeth___ 9y ago
      * Violent Bernie Bro.
    - AFNobody 9y ago
      > There has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-as-unwitting-agents-in-disinformation-campaign-senate-intel-witness/ https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-a... > Supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) reported earlier this month that during the 2016 election, their social media feeds and pro-Sanders Facebook groups were inundated with what they now believe were Russian bots spewing anti-Hillary memes including fake news stories about Clinton using a body double and murdering her ideological opponents. Over time the anti-Clinton online faction became known by the nickname “Bernie Bros.” That was a Russian propaganda tactic which the Democrats/Media then amplified that on the assumption those were really Bernie supporters. So...once again...its something credible being blown out of proportion, at worst.
zeth___ 9y ago
Then I suggest you go into any liberal leaning online space and talk about liberal issues like income inequality. You will be banned for being a something-apologist. That the liberal online spaces have effectively self censored much more effectively than the conservative ones doesn't change the fact a majority of people can no longer participate.
baursak 9y ago
OP probably meant "progressive" instead of liberal. Here's one example: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html Leftist journalists are routinely denied access to mainstream media platforms and are then accused of being "useful idiots" or "Russian trolls" when the only media platforms they're allowed on are places like RT or Telesur.

by fein 9y ago

laretluval 9y ago

TFA is an example of #2. But I agree that on the whole #1 seems a lot more common.

fein 9y ago
TFA didn't have a platform removed, the post is on tumblr on their own account, after all.

jim-jim-jim 9y ago

There has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. See troll farm operators like David Brock, Peter Daou, and their wine mom loyalists. I realize that is not the same thing as de-platforming somebody, but it's a deliberate sowing of FUD to bolster a reactionary agenda.

AFNobody 9y ago
With the exception of Jill Stein, who has been targeted? As far as I'm aware, the accusations against the Green party's candidate were credible. She also, frankly, is not really left of Clinton and has a number of ideas that are more "fringe nutters" and less politics.
- Consultant32452 9y ago
  Jimmy Dore is the only one I'm familiar with.
  - AFNobody 9y ago
    Fair but a sample size I can count on one hand where none of them being a standard bearer for the Left doesn't really fill me with concern.
- alphabettsy 9y ago
  Calling anyone on the left with reservations/questions about Clinton a Bernie Bro doesn’t ring a bell?
  - zeth___ 9y ago
    * Violent Bernie Bro.
  - AFNobody 9y ago
    > There has been an attempt by establishment Democrats and their sycophantic media outlets to discredit anybody left of Clinton as a Russian shill for some time now. https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-as-unwitting-agents-in-disinformation-campaign-senate-intel-witness/ https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/russians-used-bernie-bros-a... > Supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) reported earlier this month that during the 2016 election, their social media feeds and pro-Sanders Facebook groups were inundated with what they now believe were Russian bots spewing anti-Hillary memes including fake news stories about Clinton using a body double and murdering her ideological opponents. Over time the anti-Clinton online faction became known by the nickname “Bernie Bros.” That was a Russian propaganda tactic which the Democrats/Media then amplified that on the assumption those were really Bernie supporters. So...once again...its something credible being blown out of proportion, at worst.

zeth___ 9y ago

Then I suggest you go into any liberal leaning online space and talk about liberal issues like income inequality. You will be banned for being a something-apologist. That the liberal online spaces have effectively self censored much more effectively than the conservative ones doesn't change the fact a majority of people can no longer participate.

baursak 9y ago

OP probably meant "progressive" instead of liberal. Here's one example: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/02/pers-a02.html Leftist journalists are routinely denied access to mainstream media platforms and are then accused of being "useful idiots" or "Russian trolls" when the only media platforms they're allowed on are places like RT or Telesur.