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Grep'd the articles and the comments (thus far) and I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned matrix, Check it out - matrix.org PS: Even more importantly, the Hos

Grep'd the articles and the comments (thus far) and I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned matrix, Check it out - matrix.org PS: Even more importantly, the Host Identity Protocol. The US army has been using it for over 10 years. If that doesnt speak volumes ...

zaarn 9y ago
Matrix still has too many problems. Synapse takes a buttload of memory to run (there is even warning in the README.md), all the clients are a joke and E2E encryption isn't part of the protocol, worse, it's an optional setting, not even default for private chats. Last I checked E2E isn't even available for group chats. Plus, the author talks about Mastodon, which solves an entirely different problem than matrix to begin with. Matrix doesn't even support ActivityPub, which is basically the W3C approved standard for federated social activity, it should be easy for Matrix to integrate into the fediverse. Until then I won't consider matrix as a serious solution to anything.
- mxuribe 9y ago
  To be fair, matrix's synapse server was always only supposed to be the reference server...reference servers aren't always built for top-notch performance, just for admins/implementors to get understanding of protocol, etc. To address performance, the team is busy building a matrix server in Go; see https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite I do agree that mastodon and matrix - of which I'm a fan of both - solve for different scenarios. Mastodon replaces twitter; sort of short social media bursts/broadcasts. While matrix replaces slack (and other chat platforms like xmpp). I've always seen matrix as a modern-day irc; also allowing expansion and enhancement via plugins, and programmability like good ol' irc is/was. ActivityPub was only recently approved, so can't expect every project to instantly support it; though to be fair it has been on many projects' radar well before its approval by w3c. I truthfully haven't followed the latest matrix news, so not sure if support for activitypub is coming soon. I do feel that supporting activityPub really make it that much more powerful of a protocol AND platform...but i'm sure that's not a trivial matter. If you haven't played around with clients for matrix (such as the Riot clients), i suggest you give it a try. Riot keeps getting better and better with each new release.

zaarn 9y ago

Matrix still has too many problems. Synapse takes a buttload of memory to run (there is even warning in the README.md), all the clients are a joke and E2E encryption isn't part of the protocol, worse, it's an optional setting, not even default for private chats. Last I checked E2E isn't even available for group chats. Plus, the author talks about Mastodon, which solves an entirely different problem than matrix to begin with. Matrix doesn't even support ActivityPub, which is basically the W3C approved standard for federated social activity, it should be easy for Matrix to integrate into the fediverse. Until then I won't consider matrix as a serious solution to anything.

mxuribe 9y ago
To be fair, matrix's synapse server was always only supposed to be the reference server...reference servers aren't always built for top-notch performance, just for admins/implementors to get understanding of protocol, etc. To address performance, the team is busy building a matrix server in Go; see https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite I do agree that mastodon and matrix - of which I'm a fan of both - solve for different scenarios. Mastodon replaces twitter; sort of short social media bursts/broadcasts. While matrix replaces slack (and other chat platforms like xmpp). I've always seen matrix as a modern-day irc; also allowing expansion and enhancement via plugins, and programmability like good ol' irc is/was. ActivityPub was only recently approved, so can't expect every project to instantly support it; though to be fair it has been on many projects' radar well before its approval by w3c. I truthfully haven't followed the latest matrix news, so not sure if support for activitypub is coming soon. I do feel that supporting activityPub really make it that much more powerful of a protocol AND platform...but i'm sure that's not a trivial matter. If you haven't played around with clients for matrix (such as the Riot clients), i suggest you give it a try. Riot keeps getting better and better with each new release.