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Of course Google will tell you that cigarettes cause cancer and climate change is a threat: they don't sell tobacco or drill for oil! They're just looking out f

Of course Google will tell you that cigarettes cause cancer and climate change is a threat: they don't sell tobacco or drill for oil! They're just looking out for their own interests. Apple actively chooses to not pursue these revenue streams even though they have the resources and reach to do so.

darawk 9y ago
> Apple actively chooses to not pursue these revenue streams even though they have the resources and reach to do so. I disagree. Apple can't compete in those spaces effectively because they're already owned by Google/FB. Microsoft has similar resources to Apple, and they tried to compete with Google on search - look how that turned out. Even Google can't compete with FB in social, look at Google Plus. Apple has, intelligently, recognized that they cannot compete in that space. So they aren't trying. They are then using that to their advantage, by focusing on privacy, which is something their competitors cannot focus on. It's a perfectly legitimate strategy, and there's nothing wrong with them doing that. I support it wholeheartedly. On the contrary however, it is not in Apple's strategic interest to give users's sovereignty over their devices. In both cases, their behavior aligns not with user interests, but with their own. Being financially self-interested better explains the sum total of Apple's behavior than any interest in user well-being.
- cdancette 9y ago
  Microsoft azure is not going so bad, and it started in a space where amazon was far ahead. A large head start doesn't mean that you can't compete, it depends largely on the space.
  - darawk 9y ago
    You're completely right. I didn't mean to imply that you can't compete with a head start. What I meant to imply was that in social/search specifically, it's extremely difficult to compete, due to the virtuous cycles of networks and data.
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- voddy_ 9y ago
  I like the reward system with-in Bing. Covered the cost of my kids Xbox gold/live subscription.
devmunchies 9y ago
Exactly. Apple has lots of opportunities to monitize the App Store by profiting from user data.

darawk 9y ago

> Apple actively chooses to not pursue these revenue streams even though they have the resources and reach to do so. I disagree. Apple can't compete in those spaces effectively because they're already owned by Google/FB. Microsoft has similar resources to Apple, and they tried to compete with Google on search - look how that turned out. Even Google can't compete with FB in social, look at Google Plus. Apple has, intelligently, recognized that they cannot compete in that space. So they aren't trying. They are then using that to their advantage, by focusing on privacy, which is something their competitors cannot focus on. It's a perfectly legitimate strategy, and there's nothing wrong with them doing that. I support it wholeheartedly. On the contrary however, it is not in Apple's strategic interest to give users's sovereignty over their devices. In both cases, their behavior aligns not with user interests, but with their own. Being financially self-interested better explains the sum total of Apple's behavior than any interest in user well-being.

cdancette 9y ago
Microsoft azure is not going so bad, and it started in a space where amazon was far ahead. A large head start doesn't mean that you can't compete, it depends largely on the space.
- darawk 9y ago
  You're completely right. I didn't mean to imply that you can't compete with a head start. What I meant to imply was that in social/search specifically, it's extremely difficult to compete, due to the virtuous cycles of networks and data.
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voddy_ 9y ago
I like the reward system with-in Bing. Covered the cost of my kids Xbox gold/live subscription.

devmunchies 9y ago

Exactly. Apple has lots of opportunities to monitize the App Store by profiting from user data.