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Worth mentioning that there exists a $5MM lifetime max that any individual can gift before paying taxes. A common misconception is that you have to pay tax on
by gxs 9y ago
Worth mentioning that there exists a $5MM lifetime max that any individual can gift before paying taxes.
A common misconception is that you have to pay tax on every gift you make, but as long as you’re under that $5MM all you have to do is report it.
- adanto6840 9y agoNot that it would probably ever apply to me, but I'm curious if that's per "individual gift giver - giver receiver" pair? Or is it the case that it's solely per individual gift _giver_? As in, would receiving a $500 gift from Bill Gates (who presumably has met the $5MM lifetime threshold) be fully taxable? Just random Sunday curiousness. :)
- gxs 9y agoIndividual gift giver. So lifetime max per person! Not too shabby.
- purple-again 9y agoLifetime max $5,000,000. Yearly max changes but hovers around $15k per person (wife and husband diffrent people!) and doesn’t touch yearly max.
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- isostatic 9y agoWould have to be per giver, otherwise it would be trivial to avoid (want Dave to get another $1m, either give $2m and have the taxes taken, or give $1.1m to Joe Bloggs, who gives $1m to Dave and keeps the rest.
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- mindslight 9y agoFor what GP is talking about, it's per giver. It's a combined gift/estate tax, with the goal of preventing someone from giving to escape their eventual estate tax burden. But that isn't really relevant for the average person - gifts below the annual exclusion amount (something like $14k) are exempt from reporting/recording/tallying at your death. And this does apply per each pair of people per year, so in your scenario BG would have nothing to report.
- ghfbjdhhv 9y agoAnd if your gifts are less than $15,000 per year, you don’t even have to report it. So the vast majority of gifts are not supposed to be taxed or reported.
- akcreek 9y agoThis is how my wife and I are saving for our son's future. We gift him money (you can each gift up to the limit without reporting it or decreasing the lifetime gift limit) and then we invest the money on his behalf via a UTMA account with Vanguard. He'll owe taxes upon withdrawal in the future, 17 years from now at the earliest, but he'll also have full freedom to use the money any way he sees fit. So school, starting a business, buying a house or letting the investment ride until retirement.
- kgwgk 9y agoOr blackjack and hookers...
- akcreek 9y agoIt's possible. I hope that he'll use the money in ways his mom and I would consider to be more constructive, but once he is old enough he gets control of the account and we have no say in it. Fingers crossed.
- lsc 9y agoYou might want to look into putting some of that money into a 529 plan; that allows the kid to pay for college without paying taxes on the gains. It's a risk if the kid doesn't end up going to college; you end up paying, I think, regular taxes on the earnings plus like 10% penalty. Still, 17 years of tax free growth would be a pretty good reward if the kid does go to school.
- Berobero 9y ago> $15,000 per year Importantly, per person receiving. In principle you have a virtually infinite tax-free gift giving exception available if you distribute your assets to enough people.
- purple-again 9y agoFurther complicating the situation, there is a roughly $30k (don’t bother looking it up) exception per year that allows couples to gift under that amount to individuals without affecting my lifetime $5m exclusion. So if we have 5 children and 10 grandchildren we are giving away $450,000 a year to our family and still get another $5M when we die gift tax free.
- hkmurakami 9y agoThat doubled with the tax reform. It's roughly 10.x million per person now.
- gxs 9y agoWow no way, thanks for the update.
- hkmurakami 9y agoExpires 2025 iirc