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At what costs wrt ressource usage & startup time do you get these features? IIRC KDE comes last in all tests about DE performance. I could become potentially in

At what costs wrt ressource usage & startup time do you get these features? IIRC KDE comes last in all tests about DE performance. I could become potentially interested in KDE if this had changed over the years.

simion314 9y ago
Startup is not important if you start the DE once a day, it is like saying Notepad is better then Visual Studio for coding because it starts faster. As of CPU and memory use KDE is not the most bloated DE, This is a myth so you should recheck things with latest versions of KDE,GNOME,XFCE and the others.(use what is better for you but you should not stay away from KDE because of memory or CPU usage) I agree that a WM will have less features and eat less memory so if you do not need the features of KDE use a WM. Also you can disable some of KDE features like compositing, akonadi if those are the things you do not need.
- stewbrew 9y ago
  I think this was the test I vaguely remembered. Anyway, such a test probably doesn't really say much. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubu-1704-desktops&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubu-1704...
  - simion314 9y ago
    Interesting,I can't find the link where I seen a benchmmark where KDE used less RAM then XFCE and Gnome3 ,it may differ for different people since Gnome is leaking memory for some people but I also seen reports of plasma leaking(it seems to be more rare) I am running an older version of KDE and my plasma uses less then 230MB in total(including shared memory)where only one instance of Chrome uses 450Mb and Xorg uses more then plasma for me (it may differ for other versions and configurations)
lallysingh 9y ago
I've got chrome tabs taking more RAM+CPUA than kde. As for startup time, for <1 sec I don't care. If I'm using a graphical app, it's because the command line equivalent is slower to use (e.g. multiple file selection where regexs don't help) so the additional functionality is worth it.
Sylos 9y ago
You can hardly tie ressource usage and startup time to the number of features a DE has. Take Windows as an extreme. Slow as all balls, around 1.5 GB RAM usage and essentially no features that go beyond the basics. On the other hand, take Enlightenment. It's got fancier graphics effects than KDE, nearly as much customization and I'd say about half the features (which is still a lot more than Windows, GNOME, even Xfce), and it starts up in the blink of an eye, has extremely little lag compared to other DEs, and only uses about 150 MB. It's also really buggy and not really a complete, polished DE, so despite all its advantages, I would only recommend it, if you really feel comfortable with desktop Linux and don't mind a bit of dicking around to get things working the way you want them to. And GNOME clocks in at around 1 GB RAM usage, making it the most heavyweight Linux DE, despite it lacking tons of features that pretty much any other DE has. (KDE nowadays clocks in at around 600 MB, Xfce at around 350 MB.)

simion314 9y ago

Startup is not important if you start the DE once a day, it is like saying Notepad is better then Visual Studio for coding because it starts faster. As of CPU and memory use KDE is not the most bloated DE, This is a myth so you should recheck things with latest versions of KDE,GNOME,XFCE and the others.(use what is better for you but you should not stay away from KDE because of memory or CPU usage) I agree that a WM will have less features and eat less memory so if you do not need the features of KDE use a WM. Also you can disable some of KDE features like compositing, akonadi if those are the things you do not need.

stewbrew 9y ago
I think this was the test I vaguely remembered. Anyway, such a test probably doesn't really say much. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubu-1704-desktops&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubu-1704...
- simion314 9y ago
  Interesting,I can't find the link where I seen a benchmmark where KDE used less RAM then XFCE and Gnome3 ,it may differ for different people since Gnome is leaking memory for some people but I also seen reports of plasma leaking(it seems to be more rare) I am running an older version of KDE and my plasma uses less then 230MB in total(including shared memory)where only one instance of Chrome uses 450Mb and Xorg uses more then plasma for me (it may differ for other versions and configurations)

lallysingh 9y ago

I've got chrome tabs taking more RAM+CPUA than kde. As for startup time, for <1 sec I don't care. If I'm using a graphical app, it's because the command line equivalent is slower to use (e.g. multiple file selection where regexs don't help) so the additional functionality is worth it.

Sylos 9y ago

You can hardly tie ressource usage and startup time to the number of features a DE has. Take Windows as an extreme. Slow as all balls, around 1.5 GB RAM usage and essentially no features that go beyond the basics. On the other hand, take Enlightenment. It's got fancier graphics effects than KDE, nearly as much customization and I'd say about half the features (which is still a lot more than Windows, GNOME, even Xfce), and it starts up in the blink of an eye, has extremely little lag compared to other DEs, and only uses about 150 MB. It's also really buggy and not really a complete, polished DE, so despite all its advantages, I would only recommend it, if you really feel comfortable with desktop Linux and don't mind a bit of dicking around to get things working the way you want them to. And GNOME clocks in at around 1 GB RAM usage, making it the most heavyweight Linux DE, despite it lacking tons of features that pretty much any other DE has. (KDE nowadays clocks in at around 600 MB, Xfce at around 350 MB.)