dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 with active discussion (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id

dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 with active discussion (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16670291 was a dupe as well but first post didn't gain traction)