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No systemd, so [...] you can't do much DevOps on Void Linux How so? How is DevOps linked or dependent on systemd in your view? Personally, I find systemd gets

No systemd, so [...] you can't do much DevOps on Void Linux How so? How is DevOps linked or dependent on systemd in your view? Personally, I find systemd gets in the way of devops.

a012 9y ago
I don't understand, what can't DevOps do much without systemd where most of the DevOps culture involving around automations?
- mdekkers 9y ago
  That is exactly my question. OP appears to take the position that not having systemd somehow gets in the way of doing DevOps, which to me sounds like bullshit, and I asked for some more info. Instead of engaging in a discussion, I got downvoted though, so I guess it was "the wrong question", or "I didn't ask in the right tone of voice". This place reminds me of my ex-wife.
  - somebadguy 9y ago
    Whiny victim. Not surprised your wife moved onto better things
- BlackLotus89 9y ago
  I found the question interesting as well especially since the original post mentions how michael works on void and distributimg it with ansible (many of the things he mentioned sound like devops to me)
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alxlaz 9y ago
Oh, the downvote machine works here as well... Whenever the line between a technical discussion and a systemd bashing thread becomes blurry, someone who does DevOps for a living invariably pops up to say how much they like systemd -- usually for pretty valid reasons. It's also ubiquitous enough that, by this point in time, some of my younger colleagues who do DevOps for a living have never used anything but systemd. Doing Stack Overflow-driven (aka copy-paste) DevOps without systemd is pretty challenging nowadays. Hence the joke. Otherwise, yes, of course you can do DevOps on Void. I can't imagine what you couldn't do DevOps on; I know folks who were doing it on Novell Netware before the whole thing even had a name.
- zzzcpan 9y ago
  Isn't devops basically an infrastructure engineering, which if anything, is as anti-systemd as it gets. I guess people think of devops as something different then.
  - xorcist 9y ago
    Some people use "devops" as a derogatory term for developers copy-pasting stuff to the terminal. Certain in-terms tend to acquire ironical undertones quite quickly, such as "agile" now meaning certified scrum masters(tm) doing half hour standups.
    - digi_owl 9y ago
      For me devops is summed up thus: http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/08/true-story-fixing-a-self-ddos/ http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/08/true-story-fixing-a...

No systemd, so [...] you can't do much DevOps on Void Linux How so? How is DevOps linked or dependent on systemd in your view? Personally, I find systemd gets in the way of devops.

a012 9y ago

I don't understand, what can't DevOps do much without systemd where most of the DevOps culture involving around automations?

mdekkers 9y ago
That is exactly my question. OP appears to take the position that not having systemd somehow gets in the way of doing DevOps, which to me sounds like bullshit, and I asked for some more info. Instead of engaging in a discussion, I got downvoted though, so I guess it was "the wrong question", or "I didn't ask in the right tone of voice". This place reminds me of my ex-wife.
- somebadguy 9y ago
  Whiny victim. Not surprised your wife moved onto better things
BlackLotus89 9y ago
I found the question interesting as well especially since the original post mentions how michael works on void and distributimg it with ansible (many of the things he mentioned sound like devops to me)

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alxlaz 9y ago

Oh, the downvote machine works here as well... Whenever the line between a technical discussion and a systemd bashing thread becomes blurry, someone who does DevOps for a living invariably pops up to say how much they like systemd -- usually for pretty valid reasons. It's also ubiquitous enough that, by this point in time, some of my younger colleagues who do DevOps for a living have never used anything but systemd. Doing Stack Overflow-driven (aka copy-paste) DevOps without systemd is pretty challenging nowadays. Hence the joke. Otherwise, yes, of course you can do DevOps on Void. I can't imagine what you couldn't do DevOps on; I know folks who were doing it on Novell Netware before the whole thing even had a name.

zzzcpan 9y ago
Isn't devops basically an infrastructure engineering, which if anything, is as anti-systemd as it gets. I guess people think of devops as something different then.
- xorcist 9y ago
  Some people use "devops" as a derogatory term for developers copy-pasting stuff to the terminal. Certain in-terms tend to acquire ironical undertones quite quickly, such as "agile" now meaning certified scrum masters(tm) doing half hour standups.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    For me devops is summed up thus: http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/08/true-story-fixing-a-self-ddos/ http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/08/true-story-fixing-a...