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that seems to be a common theme with kde and to a lesser degree gnome. they moved to 'features and innovation first' years ago and it shows. sure its nice that

that seems to be a common theme with kde and to a lesser degree gnome. they moved to 'features and innovation first' years ago and it shows. sure its nice that Linux is becoming more accessible for 'normal' people but for me both kde and gnome are getting in my way more and more while stability is suboptimal. i switched from kde to gnome around 2010 then xfce in 2012 and finally i3 in late 2013. for the rest of the apps i'm always looking for the leanest and least sophisticated solution that has enough features and suit my needs. these also tend to be pretty reliable. like you said, if i really needed all those fancy features and eyecandy I'd rather switch to apple or microsoft. I'm still taking a look at kde and gnome once a year or so, especially since kde5 looked really clean and nice, but it just isn't there yet..

emilsedgh 9y ago
I've always loved KDE and has been a contributor. So take my work with a grain of salt. But KDE is pretty light these days and it doesn't really get in the way. It's really polished. 2010 was the KDE 4.x times and it was indeed a bad time for the project. Things are quite different now.
- iforgotpassword 9y ago
  i agree that 5 is much better. ever since my kde fanboy coworker upgraded to 5, the amount of cursing about different things (mostly akonadi and kmail) was greatly reduced, but akonadi still seems to be a troubled child.
  - simion314 9y ago
    You can not use akonadi or kmail, I did not had a good experience with them either on older KDE so I do not used them, I use Thunderbird for mail and akonadi is off.
simion314 9y ago
Can you give examples on how KDE is in your Most of the time there are options to configure things so make the KDE as you like. As an example a feature I like but you may not like(and you could disable it) is plugging a photo camera, I get a prompt and I can chose to import the latest pictures, in a simpler setup with just a WM I would have to use the file manager, find the right subfolder in the camera SD card, find the recent images or select all, navigate to my image library,then copy paste them . I like this feature because it saves me time, but since is KDE is configurable. Other must have feature for me is the zoom feature (I have bad eyes), the ability to customize keyboard shortcuts(in Windows I can't change the zoom app shortcuts), the ability to move the panel and notification to my preferred side or corner (is important if you have a bad eye to put notifications to the side of your better eye though some designers think they know better and not let you move them)
gremlinsinc 9y ago
I'm with you as far as desktops go, KDE is pretty awesome and has all the eyecandy you'd need from an apple/microsoft clone..but i3 is just beautiful in it's simplicity, and with proper keybindings and use of tabbed windows, I find I don't miss having a true desktop environment and all the clutter. mod+d to open rofi for app search is all I need to launch apps. Not sure I'd ever go back to KDE or Gnome or XFCE now that i've gotten accustomed to i3wm.
Sylos 9y ago
Your opinion is a perfectly reasonable one to have, but I don't understand why you seem to have hard feelings about GNOME and KDE. There's hundreds of lightweight, no-bullshit options in Linux land. GNOME and KDE are the only ones that stick out from the crowd. No one forces you to use them and especially they have every right to exist, even if they don't suit your taste.

emilsedgh 9y ago

I've always loved KDE and has been a contributor. So take my work with a grain of salt. But KDE is pretty light these days and it doesn't really get in the way. It's really polished. 2010 was the KDE 4.x times and it was indeed a bad time for the project. Things are quite different now.

iforgotpassword 9y ago
i agree that 5 is much better. ever since my kde fanboy coworker upgraded to 5, the amount of cursing about different things (mostly akonadi and kmail) was greatly reduced, but akonadi still seems to be a troubled child.
- simion314 9y ago
  You can not use akonadi or kmail, I did not had a good experience with them either on older KDE so I do not used them, I use Thunderbird for mail and akonadi is off.

simion314 9y ago

Can you give examples on how KDE is in your Most of the time there are options to configure things so make the KDE as you like. As an example a feature I like but you may not like(and you could disable it) is plugging a photo camera, I get a prompt and I can chose to import the latest pictures, in a simpler setup with just a WM I would have to use the file manager, find the right subfolder in the camera SD card, find the recent images or select all, navigate to my image library,then copy paste them . I like this feature because it saves me time, but since is KDE is configurable. Other must have feature for me is the zoom feature (I have bad eyes), the ability to customize keyboard shortcuts(in Windows I can't change the zoom app shortcuts), the ability to move the panel and notification to my preferred side or corner (is important if you have a bad eye to put notifications to the side of your better eye though some designers think they know better and not let you move them)

gremlinsinc 9y ago

I'm with you as far as desktops go, KDE is pretty awesome and has all the eyecandy you'd need from an apple/microsoft clone..but i3 is just beautiful in it's simplicity, and with proper keybindings and use of tabbed windows, I find I don't miss having a true desktop environment and all the clutter. mod+d to open rofi for app search is all I need to launch apps. Not sure I'd ever go back to KDE or Gnome or XFCE now that i've gotten accustomed to i3wm.

Sylos 9y ago

Your opinion is a perfectly reasonable one to have, but I don't understand why you seem to have hard feelings about GNOME and KDE. There's hundreds of lightweight, no-bullshit options in Linux land. GNOME and KDE are the only ones that stick out from the crowd. No one forces you to use them and especially they have every right to exist, even if they don't suit your taste.