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It's happening because the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal. As such they're pulling down anythi

It's happening because the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal. As such they're pulling down anything and everything that might be even possibly illegal.

kazen44 9y ago
what about websites which are not hosted in the US, but for instance, in europe or asia? This law wouldn't be in effect for them?
- Asooka 9y ago
  It would if the USA has an extradition agreement in place, which we do with a majority of countries. So while you do not commit a crime domestically, if an American can access illegal content on your site, you can be sued in the USA and extradited.
  - singularity2001 9y ago
    are there cases when this really happened?
  - LouisSayers 9y ago
    @singularity2001 yes, Kim dotcom with MegaUpload
    - wtfstatists 9y ago
      No its location of server that did it for Megaupload. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/12/28/extradition-jurisdiction-and-kim-dotcom/ https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/12/28/extradition-juris... In short, much of Megaupload’s servers were located in the U.S. This, for the purpose of jurisdiction, means two things. First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world. More importantly though, courts in both the U.S. and now New Zealand have ruled that these servers provide sufficient contact with the U.S. to give it jurisdiction over the criminal case. While jurisdiction alone doesn’t mean a person can be extradited, it’s a crucial step and this also explains why a man who never set foot in the U.S. can be extradited to it for a crime committed online. However, this isn’t the first time the U.S. has used the server argument it’s been using it for years to combat securities fraud in the country.
      - guitarbill 9y ago
        > First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world. This logic is twisted and does not follow at all, except if you have a purely old world way of thinking (i.e. pre-internet), or are morally flexible when it suits your narrative. The lesson is clear though, stay away from American servers.
  - namlem 9y ago
    You can't be extradited for purely civil matters.
- wtfstatists 9y ago
  At least CJEU has ruled that austrian company running uk-hosted website is liable for damages due to copyright infringements occuring in france [1]. http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2015/02/11/cjeu-mere-accessibility-of-websites-enough-for-jurisdiction/ http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2015/02/11/cjeu-mere-ac...
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mike10010100 9y ago
> the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal Which law is this and when did it go into effect?

kazen44 9y ago

what about websites which are not hosted in the US, but for instance, in europe or asia? This law wouldn't be in effect for them?

Asooka 9y ago
It would if the USA has an extradition agreement in place, which we do with a majority of countries. So while you do not commit a crime domestically, if an American can access illegal content on your site, you can be sued in the USA and extradited.
- singularity2001 9y ago
  are there cases when this really happened?
- LouisSayers 9y ago
  @singularity2001 yes, Kim dotcom with MegaUpload
  - wtfstatists 9y ago
    No its location of server that did it for Megaupload. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/12/28/extradition-jurisdiction-and-kim-dotcom/ https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2015/12/28/extradition-juris... In short, much of Megaupload’s servers were located in the U.S. This, for the purpose of jurisdiction, means two things. First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world. More importantly though, courts in both the U.S. and now New Zealand have ruled that these servers provide sufficient contact with the U.S. to give it jurisdiction over the criminal case. While jurisdiction alone doesn’t mean a person can be extradited, it’s a crucial step and this also explains why a man who never set foot in the U.S. can be extradited to it for a crime committed online. However, this isn’t the first time the U.S. has used the server argument it’s been using it for years to combat securities fraud in the country.
    - guitarbill 9y ago
      > First, much of the alleged crimes took place physically in the United States. The infringements, the payments, etc. took place, at least in large part, in Virginia even if the people orchestrating it were scattered all over the world. This logic is twisted and does not follow at all, except if you have a purely old world way of thinking (i.e. pre-internet), or are morally flexible when it suits your narrative. The lesson is clear though, stay away from American servers.
- namlem 9y ago
  You can't be extradited for purely civil matters.
wtfstatists 9y ago
At least CJEU has ruled that austrian company running uk-hosted website is liable for damages due to copyright infringements occuring in france [1]. http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2015/02/11/cjeu-mere-accessibility-of-websites-enough-for-jurisdiction/ http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2015/02/11/cjeu-mere-ac...

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mike10010100 9y ago

> the USA has declared it illegal for any website to knowingly host any content that might be illegal Which law is this and when did it go into effect?