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Don’t worry, the #1 quality-of-life state is North Dakota so clearly the methodology is wack. Have you ever heard someone say: “man, when I finish my internshi

Don’t worry, the #1 quality-of-life state is North Dakota so clearly the methodology is wack. Have you ever heard someone say: “man, when I finish my internship, I hope I can go to North Dakota where there is lots of happiness?” No. Because it’s -40° there half the year.

matmo 9y ago
As much as I'd like to buy a house outside of California, I can't imagine living in cold weather constantly. I really need sunlight/warmth, and I can't help but feel like I would miss California's weather.
- jjeaff 9y ago
  Luckily, there are plenty of other states with similarly nice weather.
  - ojbyrne 9y ago
    Specifically? The thing that I like about California is that it’s warmer than the rest of the country in the winter and cooler in the summer, generally expressed by the locals as “if the temperature is below 60 or above 80, everyone complains.” Even inland California is too damn hot.
  - pedrosorio 9y ago
    There are no other states that have mostly Mediterranean hot/warm summer climates (Csa/Csb) - Oregon being the exception if you enjoy a colder/wetter Csb than what you find in the Bay Area: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/US_50_states_K%C3%B6ppen.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/US_50_st...
- sjg007 9y ago
  It’s not that bad considering modern technology and all. Get a winter hobby or sport!
- kelp 9y ago
  I live in San Francisco, but I've spent this whole winter in Utah, and it's actually been quite wonderful.
daenz 9y ago
Here are the metrics they used for quality of life: Community Engagement Social Support Voter Participation Drinking Water Quality Low Industrial Toxins Low Pollution Health Risk Urban Air Quality
- ncallaway 9y ago
  Was like...a survey of the happiness of the population not at least one of the metrics they used? It seems...like a really silly metric not to include in a quality of life ranking.
  - ars 9y ago
    > a survey of the happiness It's not possible to measure happiness by asking people. I remember reading a study about, maybe someone can find it. The only thing you can measure (or ask about) are proxies to happiness.
    - ncallaway 9y ago
      Since "happiness" by definition is subjective, how do you determine what the proxies to happiness are? How do you correlate something to "happiness" (to determine its a proxy), if you can't measure happiness directly? I mean, I agree that there's some significant problems in surveying a population, but I'm not aware of any other way to measure something subjective like happiness. I'd love to read the study you're referencing if you can find it.
hueving 9y ago
>Have you ever heard someone say: Public perception has jack to do with actual happiness. A bunch of college students wanting to go somewhere does not give it a good quality of life.

matmo 9y ago

As much as I'd like to buy a house outside of California, I can't imagine living in cold weather constantly. I really need sunlight/warmth, and I can't help but feel like I would miss California's weather.

jjeaff 9y ago
Luckily, there are plenty of other states with similarly nice weather.
- ojbyrne 9y ago
  Specifically? The thing that I like about California is that it’s warmer than the rest of the country in the winter and cooler in the summer, generally expressed by the locals as “if the temperature is below 60 or above 80, everyone complains.” Even inland California is too damn hot.
- pedrosorio 9y ago
  There are no other states that have mostly Mediterranean hot/warm summer climates (Csa/Csb) - Oregon being the exception if you enjoy a colder/wetter Csb than what you find in the Bay Area: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/US_50_states_K%C3%B6ppen.svg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/US_50_st...
sjg007 9y ago
It’s not that bad considering modern technology and all. Get a winter hobby or sport!
kelp 9y ago
I live in San Francisco, but I've spent this whole winter in Utah, and it's actually been quite wonderful.

daenz 9y ago

Here are the metrics they used for quality of life: Community Engagement Social Support Voter Participation Drinking Water Quality Low Industrial Toxins Low Pollution Health Risk Urban Air Quality

ncallaway 9y ago
Was like...a survey of the happiness of the population not at least one of the metrics they used? It seems...like a really silly metric not to include in a quality of life ranking.
- ars 9y ago
  > a survey of the happiness It's not possible to measure happiness by asking people. I remember reading a study about, maybe someone can find it. The only thing you can measure (or ask about) are proxies to happiness.
  - ncallaway 9y ago
    Since "happiness" by definition is subjective, how do you determine what the proxies to happiness are? How do you correlate something to "happiness" (to determine its a proxy), if you can't measure happiness directly? I mean, I agree that there's some significant problems in surveying a population, but I'm not aware of any other way to measure something subjective like happiness. I'd love to read the study you're referencing if you can find it.

hueving 9y ago

>Have you ever heard someone say: Public perception has jack to do with actual happiness. A bunch of college students wanting to go somewhere does not give it a good quality of life.