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>You can say what you think plainly Clearly this isn't the case, since we're already seeing the chilling effects on platforms. The legislation is so intentiona

>You can say what you think plainly Clearly this isn't the case, since we're already seeing the chilling effects on platforms. The legislation is so intentionally vague for the benefit of prosecutors, and the very fact that it's ex-post facto (unconstitutional), you could certainly be forgiven for thinking that the sole intention was to produce a chilling effect, and those pushing it were intentionally dishonest.

SiempreViernes 9y ago
Oh, so there are already unreasonable applications of this law in court? Or are you merely guessing how things will progress?
- srslack 9y ago
  What's happening right now in anticipation of the legislative package is the very definition of a chilling effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect Of course there haven't been any "unreasonable applications" of it at this point, it only just passed in the Senate several days ago.
sp332 9y ago
That's not what I'm talking about. I just didn't like AFnobody acting like everyone should have the same ideas they do.
- AFNobody 9y ago
  Why? It is blindingly obvious to the EFF and anyone else who has dealt with politics. This is literally just to wrap it up for the rubes and to find a packaging that could pass. Craigslist, Patreon, Reddit, Youtube, etc. have all started self-censorship programs in response. Patreon did it last year when this looked like it wouldn't die. Pretending it was an unforeseen consequence when it began before the law even passed and was literally called out by multiple parties as the cause after it passed for the final holdouts? That is literally burying your head in the sand. I'm sorry but this is up there with denying the Earth is round when it comes to anyone who has dealt with these groups before. https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/sesta-anti-sex-trafficking-bill-fosta.html https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/sesta-anti-sex-trafficking-bi... It is literally cutting the lifelines that help sex workers avoid being abused.

SiempreViernes 9y ago

Oh, so there are already unreasonable applications of this law in court? Or are you merely guessing how things will progress?

srslack 9y ago
What's happening right now in anticipation of the legislative package is the very definition of a chilling effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect Of course there haven't been any "unreasonable applications" of it at this point, it only just passed in the Senate several days ago.

sp332 9y ago

That's not what I'm talking about. I just didn't like AFnobody acting like everyone should have the same ideas they do.

AFNobody 9y ago
Why? It is blindingly obvious to the EFF and anyone else who has dealt with politics. This is literally just to wrap it up for the rubes and to find a packaging that could pass. Craigslist, Patreon, Reddit, Youtube, etc. have all started self-censorship programs in response. Patreon did it last year when this looked like it wouldn't die. Pretending it was an unforeseen consequence when it began before the law even passed and was literally called out by multiple parties as the cause after it passed for the final holdouts? That is literally burying your head in the sand. I'm sorry but this is up there with denying the Earth is round when it comes to anyone who has dealt with these groups before. https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/sesta-anti-sex-trafficking-bill-fosta.html https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/sesta-anti-sex-trafficking-bi... It is literally cutting the lifelines that help sex workers avoid being abused.