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The area you described is fucking scary. It's a carpool lane, sure, but several drivers like to use it to get a little bit ahead and go back to non-carpool lane

The area you described is fucking scary. It's a carpool lane, sure, but several drivers like to use it to get a little bit ahead and go back to non-carpool lanes, and sometimes they don't pay attention. It's also common for drivers to realize only one lane goes to 85 and jump in at the last moment, including driving over the triangular section just before the barrier. Also scary is entering 85 (either direction) from El Camino near Bernardo. Very sorry for the driver and their family :(

Fins 9y ago
101 is pretty scary pretty much everywhere between Gilroy and SF (doesn't help that locals can barely drive even in perfect conditions; add two drops of rain, and the whole thing stops) but the title is clickbaity -- so far it doesn't look like it being a Tesla necessarily had anything to do with the accident.
- DrScump 9y ago
  Just imagine back before that chunk of 101 was even a freeway. US 101 was Monterey Road. That stretch from just south of IBM to San Martin was literally known as "Blood Alley", averaging a death per month.
  - Fins 9y ago
    Can well imagine that. It might be better than that now only because cars are safer.
    - DrScump 9y ago
      It was then two lanes in each direction, undivided, with often a two-way left-turn lane in the middle. Lots of head-on crashes despite it being mostly straight after the initial bend off Monterey Rd.
      - Fins 9y ago
        And there we were, thinking that "well, but California has good roads!". On/off ramps on 101 aren't that great now either (try getting on at Trimble and getting off on 87 at rush hour). But given that people manage to drive straight into things on Monterey (I live on Monterey Rd) even now, it must have been quite horrifying.
DrScump 9y ago
Also scary is entering 85 (either direction) from El Camino near Bernardo I don't understand this. Entering northbound 85 is just an average single-lane ramp -- are you concerned about competing with what little traffic is exiting 85 to Evelyn? And taking 85 southbound is just a basic cloverleaf ramp to the right -- are you concerned with merging traffic from the 85 northbound offramp? Neither of those particular use cases would be a problem but for the numerous transplants who can't freaking merge. The other direction's onramp to 85 southbound became a messy hairpin a year or two ago after the construction.
- praneshp 9y ago
  > Neither of those particular use cases would be a problem but for the numerous transplants who can't freaking merge. Either you are blabbering, or I didn't communicate which merge I am referring to very well. Being unable to merge in 3 car lengths is not a transplant problem.

Fins 9y ago

101 is pretty scary pretty much everywhere between Gilroy and SF (doesn't help that locals can barely drive even in perfect conditions; add two drops of rain, and the whole thing stops) but the title is clickbaity -- so far it doesn't look like it being a Tesla necessarily had anything to do with the accident.

DrScump 9y ago
Just imagine back before that chunk of 101 was even a freeway. US 101 was Monterey Road. That stretch from just south of IBM to San Martin was literally known as "Blood Alley", averaging a death per month.
- Fins 9y ago
  Can well imagine that. It might be better than that now only because cars are safer.
  - DrScump 9y ago
    It was then two lanes in each direction, undivided, with often a two-way left-turn lane in the middle. Lots of head-on crashes despite it being mostly straight after the initial bend off Monterey Rd.
    - Fins 9y ago
      And there we were, thinking that "well, but California has good roads!". On/off ramps on 101 aren't that great now either (try getting on at Trimble and getting off on 87 at rush hour). But given that people manage to drive straight into things on Monterey (I live on Monterey Rd) even now, it must have been quite horrifying.

DrScump 9y ago

Also scary is entering 85 (either direction) from El Camino near Bernardo I don't understand this. Entering northbound 85 is just an average single-lane ramp -- are you concerned about competing with what little traffic is exiting 85 to Evelyn? And taking 85 southbound is just a basic cloverleaf ramp to the right -- are you concerned with merging traffic from the 85 northbound offramp? Neither of those particular use cases would be a problem but for the numerous transplants who can't freaking merge. The other direction's onramp to 85 southbound became a messy hairpin a year or two ago after the construction.

praneshp 9y ago
> Neither of those particular use cases would be a problem but for the numerous transplants who can't freaking merge. Either you are blabbering, or I didn't communicate which merge I am referring to very well. Being unable to merge in 3 car lengths is not a transplant problem.