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two reasons: speed and security. Speed is self explanatory, security may not be obvious. I don’t believe Firefox to be on par with Chrome. It was years behind g

two reasons: speed and security. Speed is self explanatory, security may not be obvious. I don’t believe Firefox to be on par with Chrome. It was years behind getting a sandbox, and doesn’t appear to have the engineering or QA focus on security that Edge/Chrome do.

jerheinze 9y ago
> I don’t believe Firefox to be on par with Chrome. You need to know that the Tor Browser disables a lot of stuff that Firefox has to lower the attack surface, and you can lock it down further using the Security Settings in the Torbutton. Also you should look into a Whonix+Qubes OS setup, just because there's a sandbox doesn't mean you can't get hacked. For speed: It's not really that bad for general browsing.
- libdjml 9y ago
  If we’re talking about privacy of tor vs VPN, I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? I wasn’t aware of the attack surface reduction, I’ll take a look at that, thanks for the recommendation. My ground truth for this is usually to ask full-time exploit dev friends which is a harder target, although that’s probably flawed in that if you’re targeted by someone determined it probably doesn’t matter the cost.
  - jerheinze 9y ago
    > I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? With Qubes you can have a Whonix-ws VM have all its traffic go through Tor, and have another VM with all its traffic through some VPN to use with streaming.
    - libdjml 9y ago
      What about my TV, my phone, my iPad? The way I see it the only workable solution to privacy against my ISP is to do it all at the gateway. And in that instance, I need ~50mbit which tor can’t provide.
      - jerheinze 9y ago
        > What about my TV, my phone, my iPad? For iOS there's Onion Browser by Mike Tigas, but it's definitely NOT as privacy resistant as a Tor Browser. For Android there's Orfox and official Tor Browser builds for Android are coming this year.

jerheinze 9y ago

> I don’t believe Firefox to be on par with Chrome. You need to know that the Tor Browser disables a lot of stuff that Firefox has to lower the attack surface, and you can lock it down further using the Security Settings in the Torbutton. Also you should look into a Whonix+Qubes OS setup, just because there's a sandbox doesn't mean you can't get hacked. For speed: It's not really that bad for general browsing.

libdjml 9y ago
If we’re talking about privacy of tor vs VPN, I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? I wasn’t aware of the attack surface reduction, I’ll take a look at that, thanks for the recommendation. My ground truth for this is usually to ask full-time exploit dev friends which is a harder target, although that’s probably flawed in that if you’re targeted by someone determined it probably doesn’t matter the cost.
- jerheinze 9y ago
  > I want my entire network protected at the gateway, so not sure how the tor network keeps up with streaming video etc? With Qubes you can have a Whonix-ws VM have all its traffic go through Tor, and have another VM with all its traffic through some VPN to use with streaming.
  - libdjml 9y ago
    What about my TV, my phone, my iPad? The way I see it the only workable solution to privacy against my ISP is to do it all at the gateway. And in that instance, I need ~50mbit which tor can’t provide.
    - jerheinze 9y ago
      > What about my TV, my phone, my iPad? For iOS there's Onion Browser by Mike Tigas, but it's definitely NOT as privacy resistant as a Tor Browser. For Android there's Orfox and official Tor Browser builds for Android are coming this year.