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I personally prefer Google over FB. I haven't deleted my FB account because that's my contact list of some sort but I am not very active. I guess I prefer the S
by gerash 9y ago
I personally prefer Google over FB. I haven't deleted my FB account because that's my contact list of some sort but I am not very active. I guess I prefer the Snapchat model where what you post doesn't stick around forever. I'm not fond of the aggressive, greedy bro attitude of FB in moving fast and breaking things. On the other hand I use Google services all the time.
Folks whining about data collection should realize Google hasn't decided to be an ad company, it's just they have succeeded monetizing it better than their more recent cloud offering and in future their hardware business. So it's not an ad company because it does everything top down based on what would make ad business succeed. It's just that the search product is popular and placing ads next to it pays well. If you're complaining about seeing ads and are not using the paid GSuite version or non google services for email for example, it means you don't care enough and perhaps should stop whining about a free service you've opted to use.
This is also somehow true about FB. they're trying to monetize their Oculus business but it doesn't pay as much as the ad business I guess.
IMO the solution to data collection isn't to completely stop it as it'll make the services less tailored to individuals and dumber. Instead I'd rather the data be collected but under full control of the individual. So I can decide who gets to access it and for how long.
- jonathanyc 9y ago> If you're complaining about seeing ads and are not using the paid GSuite version or non google services for email for example, it means you don't care enough and perhaps should stop whining about a free service you've opted to use. This and you characterizing people opposing Facebook and Google as “whining” does not contribute to the discussion. If you think not paying for a service revokes your right to complain about it, why are you even comparing Google and Facebook at all? Your comment is neither insightful nor consistent.
- gerash 9y agoI didn't say those who don't pay for a service have no right to complain. I'm opposing the constant characterization of what Google and Facebook do [successfully and other companies do too but less successfully] which is collecting behavior signals to tailor ads and services is inherently nefarious. But again, if one opts to receive some service for free, they sure can complain but I don't think they are guaranteed any change to that service based on their complaint. IMO what matters is that users have alternatives and are not locked in.
- CaptSpify 9y ago> Folks whining about data collection should realize Google hasn't decided to be an ad company, it's just they have succeeded monetizing it better than their more recent cloud offering and in future their hardware business. Yet they still don't offer paid options, that allow me to remain anonymous for almost all of their systems. I don't see how anyone can imply that Google is reluctantly in the ad business when they don't even offer alternative monetization models.