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Good luck to you trying to use these.

by product50 9y ago

joering2 9y ago
Honestly curious what you have against DuckDuckGo or Protonmail, same with MapQuest.
- product50 9y ago
  You cannot be honest if you are asking this question. You are comparing MapQuest with Google Maps and are asking me, in all earnest, what is that I find better in GMaps? Similarly with Protonmail and GMail. How about email spam to start with? Or maybe email search? What about automatic filters? Or what about the fact the Protonmail is a subscription service if you want to use their advanced features.
  - joering2 9y ago
    I don't get any spam on Protonmail, they already have strong filters. I don't use any automatic filters, but I could use their "Bridge" tools and install Bat on my Laptop and setup filters this way. Way more advance features in Bat than in Gmail. Protonmail is subscription service, true. But just like I can afford $5 per day for a good coffee, I can afford $1 per day for a secure, encrypted email; although I can believe for someone living in third world country, $30 seem a fortune, and I don't blame you for your country's economical situation. And if you prefer gmail for free and be their product that they analyze, dissect it and categorize you based on the content of your email then that's fine with me; I really don't care. You are simply their product, but with your HN username, I doubt I had to tell you that :)
    - product50 9y ago
      Just because you don't use automatic filters doesn't mean every else doesn't use it. Just because you can pay $30/mo subscription doesn't mean every else can or are willing to pay it. Just because you don't want to be Google's product doesn't mean every else doesn't want to be the same. So just stop it. You seriously had the audacity here to compare GMail (a wonderful free product) with Protonmail (a $365/yr product) and ask me why I don't find it as a good replacement. At the very least, have some empathy man.
      - bartbutler 9y ago
        ProtonMail Plus (the lowest paid tier) is $48/yr. And you do pay for Gmail with your data, so let's at least get the comparison right. The final cost/benefit analysis is your choice of course, but Gmail is not free
        joering2 9y ago
        Thanks. 10 years from now it will surface Google through their arm 23andme was building your health profile and share it with health providers you shopped with. Since they don't have same data on me as on product50, the cost of my insurance will be mediocre and his will be thru the roof. And if you don't believe me, Edward Snowden would like to have a word with you.
  - bartbutler 9y ago
    ProtonMail does have filters...am I missing something?
    - product50 9y ago
      If you want to add more than 1 custom filter on ProtonMail, you have to be on the paid plan: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/filters/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/filters/
      - bartbutler 9y ago
        Or you can just put all your stuff in a single Sieve filter.

Good luck to you trying to use these.

joering2 9y ago

Honestly curious what you have against DuckDuckGo or Protonmail, same with MapQuest.

product50 9y ago
You cannot be honest if you are asking this question. You are comparing MapQuest with Google Maps and are asking me, in all earnest, what is that I find better in GMaps? Similarly with Protonmail and GMail. How about email spam to start with? Or maybe email search? What about automatic filters? Or what about the fact the Protonmail is a subscription service if you want to use their advanced features.
- joering2 9y ago
  I don't get any spam on Protonmail, they already have strong filters. I don't use any automatic filters, but I could use their "Bridge" tools and install Bat on my Laptop and setup filters this way. Way more advance features in Bat than in Gmail. Protonmail is subscription service, true. But just like I can afford $5 per day for a good coffee, I can afford $1 per day for a secure, encrypted email; although I can believe for someone living in third world country, $30 seem a fortune, and I don't blame you for your country's economical situation. And if you prefer gmail for free and be their product that they analyze, dissect it and categorize you based on the content of your email then that's fine with me; I really don't care. You are simply their product, but with your HN username, I doubt I had to tell you that :)
  - product50 9y ago
    Just because you don't use automatic filters doesn't mean every else doesn't use it. Just because you can pay $30/mo subscription doesn't mean every else can or are willing to pay it. Just because you don't want to be Google's product doesn't mean every else doesn't want to be the same. So just stop it. You seriously had the audacity here to compare GMail (a wonderful free product) with Protonmail (a $365/yr product) and ask me why I don't find it as a good replacement. At the very least, have some empathy man.
    - bartbutler 9y ago
      ProtonMail Plus (the lowest paid tier) is $48/yr. And you do pay for Gmail with your data, so let's at least get the comparison right. The final cost/benefit analysis is your choice of course, but Gmail is not free
      - joering2 9y ago
        Thanks. 10 years from now it will surface Google through their arm 23andme was building your health profile and share it with health providers you shopped with. Since they don't have same data on me as on product50, the cost of my insurance will be mediocre and his will be thru the roof. And if you don't believe me, Edward Snowden would like to have a word with you.
- bartbutler 9y ago
  ProtonMail does have filters...am I missing something?
  - product50 9y ago
    If you want to add more than 1 custom filter on ProtonMail, you have to be on the paid plan: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/filters/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/filters/
    - bartbutler 9y ago
      Or you can just put all your stuff in a single Sieve filter.