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While it is true that Sweden was economically liberal when it grew rich, liberalism is not enough -- you also need stability, an educated high-IQ population and

While it is true that Sweden was economically liberal when it grew rich, liberalism is not enough -- you also need stability, an educated high-IQ population and high trust/low corruption. The mass immigration (and the word 'mass' is really an understatement) of people with much less education and non-Western culture/values is destroying those other factors, not to mention the fact that they overwhelmingly vote socialist to increase welfare payments. While Sweden's economy has seen some growth (but really not that much per capita) due to limited liberalization, a floating currency and most of all a huge increase in household debt to pay for soaring house prices caused by population growth (also due to immigration) and extremely low interest rates, the chickens will eventually come home to roost. Sweden really has no future.

oblio 9y ago
> Sweden really has no future. Bold claims are like low percentage shots. A developed country, full of highly educated people, in a peaceful part of the world, should be able to self-correct to some degree. It might, relatively to the rest of the world, not be in as good a state as before, but saying “it has no future” is stretching things quite far, IMO.
- mieses 9y ago
  The self-correction needed is cultural and will take too long. Decades of progressive indoctrination will not be be undone overnight. It's a safe bet that it's too late.
  - oblio 9y ago
    And what do you think will happen? Sweden will become a warzone? I highly doubt that. It will still be rich and developed, just with lower social cohesion.
    - mieses 9y ago
      Social cohesion is not the issue or a goal. There will be a lowering of freedom, individualism, and other "western" values at the expense of becoming "rich", "developed", and other metrics than can be measured as data rather than on subjective cultural scales. It's interesting that this anti-humanist statistical model of human development is championed by the left. Anything to spite "western" culture.
      - oblio 9y ago
        I’m neither right or left, but I am an optimist. I guess only time will tell who’s right.

oblio 9y ago

> Sweden really has no future. Bold claims are like low percentage shots. A developed country, full of highly educated people, in a peaceful part of the world, should be able to self-correct to some degree. It might, relatively to the rest of the world, not be in as good a state as before, but saying “it has no future” is stretching things quite far, IMO.

mieses 9y ago
The self-correction needed is cultural and will take too long. Decades of progressive indoctrination will not be be undone overnight. It's a safe bet that it's too late.
- oblio 9y ago
  And what do you think will happen? Sweden will become a warzone? I highly doubt that. It will still be rich and developed, just with lower social cohesion.
  - mieses 9y ago
    Social cohesion is not the issue or a goal. There will be a lowering of freedom, individualism, and other "western" values at the expense of becoming "rich", "developed", and other metrics than can be measured as data rather than on subjective cultural scales. It's interesting that this anti-humanist statistical model of human development is championed by the left. Anything to spite "western" culture.
    - oblio 9y ago
      I’m neither right or left, but I am an optimist. I guess only time will tell who’s right.