I think the majority of users of each do not debate the relative merits but simply use them for what they are good for. I use Emacs a lot because I use org-mod

I think the majority of users of each do not debate the relative merits but simply use them for what they are good for. I use Emacs a lot because I use org-mode a lot. if there was a stand alone og-mode application I might be willing to give it a try, if there was a vi based version ditto but I don't spend any effort to debate the merits of them, I just use what works for me for now.