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Thunderbird 52.7.0 released
- pjmlp 9y agoLove it, it has been my favourite email client since the Netscape days. Don't forget to donate.
- amorroxic 9y agoOn the same page. Have gone through endless flavors of Linux, Win and OSX by simply copying the emails folder from system to system for close to 20 years now - and never lost one email. To say I appreciate this piece of software would be an understatement.
- cutler 9y agoI've been stuck 31.7 for years because it's the only version which honours font preferences in OS X. Theme and Font Size Changer was useless after version 41.1. Someone please tell they've fixed this nonsense.
- Jonnax 9y agoDid you create a bug or search for one?
- lucb1e 9y agoI read that as "I've been stuck 31.7 years because it's the only ..." and did a triple-take on how old the software is and how long you've been using it. But no, Wikipedia lists it as "Initial release: July 28, 2003; 14 years ago". Still very old to be in such widespread use, though. From where I worked to my grandma to my in-laws to the Linux poweruser that I am, a very widespread range of people use it. I am not 100% happy with it, but email is important enough that I want something stable (e.g. no bugs that either mess up my email server-side or stop it from working) and secure (both the connection and for viewing).
- cutler 9y agoAccording to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Thunderbird#Release_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Thunderbird... Thunderbird 31.7.0 was released on 12th May 2015.
- lucb1e 9y agoRead what I wrote carefully, I misread it as "I've been stuck 31.7 years" ;)
- y0ghur7_xxx 9y agoThunderbird is still the best crossplatform, multi account mail client around. Everybody migrated to webmail, but for those old grumps of us who still have multiple email accounts, and maybe even follow some newsgroups, tb is still the best player in town. Thanks tb team for your work! I love you all!
- happyweasel 9y agoI really prefer Seamonkey's Mail cleint (it has the same roots as Thunderbird), especially since you can always switch back to an good old desktop-like theme. Has been rock-solid since 15 years.
- u801e 9y agoI used that for a while between the time the Mozilla Application Suite was discontinued till when I started using Firefox and Thunderbird. IIRC, I switched because the browser was having problems rendering certain websites that Firefox did not. How well does it work today? Does the mail client have the ability to sign up for RSS/Atom feeds? Does it have a calendar built in? What about chat? (I guess I'm one of the rare Thunderbird users who actually uses all of those features).
- cup-of-tea 9y agoA proper mail client also seems essential for taking part in mailing lists. I used to use gnus but got too frustrated at people sending me email in stupid HTML formats that I couldn't read. Thunderbird is the easiest thing to use that behaves like a proper mail client but also deals with the garbage from bad clients like Outhouse etc.
- erk__ 9y agoAt the moment I am using Wanderlust, to help with the html I have set it up so I can open them in firefox.
- johannes1234321 9y ago
- Ericson2314 9y agoWith the latest job I went from work GMail to company-hosted (and thunderbird) for the first time. I'm pleased to report it is far better than I feared. Thank you, Thunderbird!
- arenaninja 9y agoI love Thunderbird, I have used it at several previous jobs and I'm finding joy in email clients again as I now actively avoid using the web client for gmail. I have never understood people's gripes with the client, but maybe I'm just not a power user. Seems like Mozilla could be a trustworthy mail provider as well.
- nashashmi 9y agoNice to see win XP continues to be a supported platform.
- nabeards 9y agoBut sad it only goes back to Mac 10.9.
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y agoActually I wonder why. Probably using GTK or something that only supports newer systems, but still too bad.
- classichasclass 9y agoGTK doesn't have anything to do with that; Thunderbird and Firefox use native widgets to implement XUL on macOS. It's mostly a platform decision based on numbers of users and if there are any technical pain points supporting earlier SDKs.
- lostapathy 9y agoHonest question - why? There are kids enlisting in the army now that were born after XP was released.
- Karunamon 9y agoI was about to make a snarky comment here but... yeah, if you’re still connecting an XP machine to the internet, you’re asking to be pwned.
- cesarb 9y agoWhat matters is not when Windows XP was originally released, but when its official support ended, which according to Wikipedia was on April 2014. Both Firefox and Thunderbird supported Windows XP for a few more years after that (since Windows XP was and is still popular even after its official support ended); version 52 of both (which is an ESR release) is going to be the last one with support for Windows XP. The operating system support doesn't change within a major release, which is why 52.7 has the same operating system support as 52.0.
- rajaindia333 9y agoMS Outlook is still the best.
- jimktrains2 9y agoI'll have to give it a shot, but the last time I used thunderbird it was unusably slow at pretty much everything. Compacting my folders would help for a day or two, and then it'd basically become unresponsive for 30s or more with any user input. I hope they focus on performance in coming revisions.
- your-nanny 9y agoFor life of me I don't see how what you wrote deserves a downvote
- mixmastamyk 9y agoTry a new profile, vacuuming it, and/or moving ancient mail to separate folders.
- bastawhiz 9y agoPoor answers to performance problems like this is the number one reason why Firefox lost so much market share to Chrome. Until Mozilla and friends pay attention to user pain, no amount of "creating a new profile" will improve the situation. Hell, you can search the entirety of the public internet in a fraction of a second, but a few hundred thousand emails locks up your machine for the better part of a minute? Maybe the Rust folks working on parallelism can spend a few sprints giving TB some love.
- mixmastamyk 9y agoNot had the problems you mentioned in ~20 years of usage (Netscape communicator), just brainstormed a few possible solutions. It has always been instantaneous for me.
- Mahn 9y agoI keep using Thunderbird because I haven't found anything better, but it's unbearably slow. I'd gladly jump ship to a better cross platform, featureful, responsive email client, but apparently they don't make these anymore.
- KaoruAoiShiho 9y agoI'm using the default mac client. Is thunderbird better?
- jsilence 9y agomailmate is a far better mail program than the default mail program on OSX. worth every penny.
- lucb1e 9y agoI don't know the default OS X client so I can't go into detail, but I'd guess that one is better integrated with OS X. On the other hand, Thunderbird works cross-platform and allows you to choose any operating system without having to consider a new mail client, set it up and learn new ways. You could probably even copy over your data folder and resume working without any set-up (`scp -r ~/.thunderbird user@newpc:` would be the complete migration process, assuming it works between OSes).
- saratogacx 9y agoYou're correct. You copy the profile folder and set the default profile startup to be the one you copied (I think this was in the profile.ini file) and it is if you never left. I this this between mac, linux, and windows machines and it functioned perfectly every time including add-ons, settings, filters, and themes.
- lucb1e 9y ago> set the default profile startup to be the one you copied (I think this was in the profile.ini file) The command I posted would copy the parent folder, including profile.ini, but yeah it's pretty much the same thing. > I this this between mac, linux, and windows machines and it functioned perfectly every time including add-ons, settings, filters, and themes. Cool, that's good to know for sure!
- WalterGR 9y agoI this this between mac, linux, and windows machines and it functioned perfectly every time What OS did the profile start on? I copied my profile from Windows to Mac, and everything is fucked up. Because of the different line ending characters, as far as I can tell.
- rajaindia333 9y agoIt still feels like the 90s software.
- diggan 9y agoI agree, in a positive way. It feels fast, no-nonsense UI and takes as little space as possible on your harddrive. Much better than 2000s software where internet connection is a must, UI is as pretty as possible without considerations for the user and often is 200MB for a simple todo list manager.
- zerr 9y agoYes, and it would be great to keep it that way. But unfortunately, some say there are plans to adopt more "web tech", maybe Electron... I hope that day never comes.
- omaranto 9y agoYes, let's hope this gecko and XUL based application never gets rewritten using web tech...
- anthk 9y agoAnd that's good.
- michaelmrose 9y agoMu4e + emacs is pretty neat and quite zippy
- Gorgor 9y agoI’m using this setup too for quite a while now and overall, I’m pretty happy with it. But some HTML mail is barely readable. How do you deal with that? I’ve written an emacs function which opens the mail in firefox, but I’m not really fond of that as every remote content is loaded by the browser. Is there a way to stop that?
- michaelmrose 9y agowith the xwidgets functionality its possible to view html mail in fashion that looks pretty much like chrome/firefox inside emacs with webkitgtk sadly I can't seem to get that feature working on my emacs on funtoo or manjaro. See. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mu-discuss/JqHEGycEyKI https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mu-discuss/JqHEGycEy... If you have any suggestions regarding this I'd love to hear it.
- ams6110 9y agoUse w3m to view HTML email. Does a great job even with tables.
- nickysielicki 9y agoYou should take a look at notmuch [1]. It takes a little bit of time to get started (I recommend afew [2] for initial tagging), but I don't think I could ever go back to another mail system. It changes the way that you go through mail, no more folders: between tagging and extremely fast searches, there's no need. Just like an application launcher on modern desktops, there's no need to go through a big menu: press your search key, type what you're thinking, and there it is. It doubles the size of your maildir with the indexing, which is a downside if you're crunched for space, but maybe that gives you an idea for just how much is indexed and how fast you can expect searching to be. It's fair to say that the most popular interface for it is the emacs interface, which is great if you're already using emacs for mail because your workflow won't change substantially. There are other interfaces available, I have used one called alot [3] and find it to be very good as well. [1]: https://notmuchmail.org/ https://notmuchmail.org/ [2]: https://github.com/afewmail/afew https://github.com/afewmail/afew [3]: https://github.com/pazz/alot https://github.com/pazz/alot
- knodi 9y agoJust started using it and finally dropped Airmail. I don’t know why didn’t do it years ago!!!
- mstaoru 9y agoI have 6 mailboxes I prefer to keep separate, and my email client history goes from Thunderbird to Postbox, then Thunderbird again, and then Spark. Thunderbird was a good mail client, but the search is seriously broken. It's almost impossible to search Chinese at all, and when it searches Russian, some weird hits get mixed in, and some proper hits get ignored. Postbox was very good overall, but every once in a while it would lose the whole cache, index, and sometimes even the whole downloaded history, and would spend a day chugging at downloading everything over again. So for the last half a year I've been using Spark, and I'm pleasantly surprised by speed, search, and the feel of the app. Admittedly, there is no Windows version so it's not truly cross-platform.
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