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No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.

by gt_ 9y ago

banned1 9y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d...
vertis 9y ago
I was trying to find supporting evidence for this (I certainly feel it to be true), Unfortunately I found the opposite[1]. Though this was till 2016, so I wonder if it's changed. [1]: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri...
- banned1 9y ago
  I thought it was obvious to everybody in the world that most people in the world who want to migrate would want to go to the greatest nation in the world. Why go anywhere else?
- Al-Khwarizmi 9y ago
  There's a lot of inertia involved in this. I have launched international hiring processes for PhD studentship positions at my lab. More than once, I have had good candidates who ended up rejecting an offer and going to the US instead because their universities have more prestige. Sometimes the convenience of these decisions for them was, let's say, highly questionable (although I really hope I'm wrong and wish them the best of luck!). For example, a person from Iran who went there to first be hit by Trump's travel ban, and then the graduate student hike. Here that person would have had a good salary, enough to live well, and no such worries. And even though my university as a whole is ranked worse that the university they ended up in, my group/lab is better on any metric. I have also had a candidate from an Asian country who really wanted to come here, but their parents wanted their child to go to a "prestigious US university" so they didn't let them. I do think that if you ask in Europe, almost no one wants to go to the US. At least that's my experience. But in other areas of the world the inertia of the US's reputation is strong.

No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.

by gt_ 9y ago

No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d...

vertis 9y ago

I was trying to find supporting evidence for this (I certainly feel it to be true), Unfortunately I found the opposite[1]. Though this was till 2016, so I wonder if it's changed. [1]: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri...

banned1 9y ago
I thought it was obvious to everybody in the world that most people in the world who want to migrate would want to go to the greatest nation in the world. Why go anywhere else?
Al-Khwarizmi 9y ago
There's a lot of inertia involved in this. I have launched international hiring processes for PhD studentship positions at my lab. More than once, I have had good candidates who ended up rejecting an offer and going to the US instead because their universities have more prestige. Sometimes the convenience of these decisions for them was, let's say, highly questionable (although I really hope I'm wrong and wish them the best of luck!). For example, a person from Iran who went there to first be hit by Trump's travel ban, and then the graduate student hike. Here that person would have had a good salary, enough to live well, and no such worries. And even though my university as a whole is ranked worse that the university they ended up in, my group/lab is better on any metric. I have also had a candidate from an Asian country who really wanted to come here, but their parents wanted their child to go to a "prestigious US university" so they didn't let them. I do think that if you ask in Europe, almost no one wants to go to the US. At least that's my experience. But in other areas of the world the inertia of the US's reputation is strong.