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You don't have to empathize with a business owners. It's their resources at play. So they simply will do business elsewhere. I don't have to open an office in F

You don't have to empathize with a business owners. It's their resources at play. So they simply will do business elsewhere. I don't have to open an office in France. I just don't. It's too much hassle. I open it wherever I want. So if an employee loses out by not being hired by me (or I lose out by not hiring some French awesome person), then so be it. But the point is that the US environment is more friendly for businesses, and as a result we have a lot of them. Maybe other places also have a lot of them too, but if you did a poll all over the world of what country they would want to emigrate to, it would be the US who will lead the worldwide poll.

jeena 9y ago
I would like to see that poll because nobody I know would ever want to emigrate to the US, especially now with that idiot president you have. On the other hand I see a lot of refugees trying to get to Germany and Sweden which have at least the same if not stricter labour laws. Reading your comment I feel that you live in a really strange bubble which allows you to think like you do.
- banned1 9y ago
  I googled it for you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d... America has historically been the country most people go to.
- skookumchuck 9y ago
  > nobody I know would ever want to emigrate to the US And yet people want to get here so bad they illegally stream over the border by the millions. > I see a lot of refugees trying to get to Germany and Sweden It's a lot harder to walk from Europe to the US.
- gbacon 9y ago
  Different people are attracted to different potential outcomes. Compensation is a vector, after all. It’s the usual question of risk versus reward. Some will find the perceived safety of generous government protection and benefits desirable, even at the cost of lower remuneration. Others prefer to swing for the fence.
gt_ 9y ago
No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.
- banned1 9y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d...
- vertis 9y ago
  I was trying to find supporting evidence for this (I certainly feel it to be true), Unfortunately I found the opposite[1]. Though this was till 2016, so I wonder if it's changed. [1]: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri...
  - banned1 9y ago
    I thought it was obvious to everybody in the world that most people in the world who want to migrate would want to go to the greatest nation in the world. Why go anywhere else?
  - Al-Khwarizmi 9y ago
    There's a lot of inertia involved in this. I have launched international hiring processes for PhD studentship positions at my lab. More than once, I have had good candidates who ended up rejecting an offer and going to the US instead because their universities have more prestige. Sometimes the convenience of these decisions for them was, let's say, highly questionable (although I really hope I'm wrong and wish them the best of luck!). For example, a person from Iran who went there to first be hit by Trump's travel ban, and then the graduate student hike. Here that person would have had a good salary, enough to live well, and no such worries. And even though my university as a whole is ranked worse that the university they ended up in, my group/lab is better on any metric. I have also had a candidate from an Asian country who really wanted to come here, but their parents wanted their child to go to a "prestigious US university" so they didn't let them. I do think that if you ask in Europe, almost no one wants to go to the US. At least that's my experience. But in other areas of the world the inertia of the US's reputation is strong.

jeena 9y ago

I would like to see that poll because nobody I know would ever want to emigrate to the US, especially now with that idiot president you have. On the other hand I see a lot of refugees trying to get to Germany and Sweden which have at least the same if not stricter labour laws. Reading your comment I feel that you live in a really strange bubble which allows you to think like you do.

banned1 9y ago
I googled it for you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d... America has historically been the country most people go to.
skookumchuck 9y ago
> nobody I know would ever want to emigrate to the US And yet people want to get here so bad they illegally stream over the border by the millions. > I see a lot of refugees trying to get to Germany and Sweden It's a lot harder to walk from Europe to the US.
gbacon 9y ago
Different people are attracted to different potential outcomes. Compensation is a vector, after all. It’s the usual question of risk versus reward. Some will find the perceived safety of generous government protection and benefits desirable, even at the cost of lower remuneration. Others prefer to swing for the fence.

gt_ 9y ago

No, that’s wrong. It’s just one of the lies you Americans love to tell each other.

banned1 9y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_immigrant_population https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and... http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/index.shtml http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/d...
vertis 9y ago
I was trying to find supporting evidence for this (I certainly feel it to be true), Unfortunately I found the opposite[1]. Though this was till 2016, so I wonder if it's changed. [1]: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countri...
- banned1 9y ago
  I thought it was obvious to everybody in the world that most people in the world who want to migrate would want to go to the greatest nation in the world. Why go anywhere else?
- Al-Khwarizmi 9y ago
  There's a lot of inertia involved in this. I have launched international hiring processes for PhD studentship positions at my lab. More than once, I have had good candidates who ended up rejecting an offer and going to the US instead because their universities have more prestige. Sometimes the convenience of these decisions for them was, let's say, highly questionable (although I really hope I'm wrong and wish them the best of luck!). For example, a person from Iran who went there to first be hit by Trump's travel ban, and then the graduate student hike. Here that person would have had a good salary, enough to live well, and no such worries. And even though my university as a whole is ranked worse that the university they ended up in, my group/lab is better on any metric. I have also had a candidate from an Asian country who really wanted to come here, but their parents wanted their child to go to a "prestigious US university" so they didn't let them. I do think that if you ask in Europe, almost no one wants to go to the US. At least that's my experience. But in other areas of the world the inertia of the US's reputation is strong.