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Replacing functionality is the easy part. How do you replace volume of people using the system? Scandal or not - Facebook is still where "everyone is". And unti

by harel 9y ago

Replacing functionality is the easy part. How do you replace volume of people using the system? Scandal or not - Facebook is still where "everyone is". And until "everyone" are not there, there is no "replacing" Facebook - just replacing some functional aspects of it. I use Facebook for one main purpose - to keep in touch with people around the world whom I know from different periods of my life. Unless all of them pack up and move to an alternative, leaving Facebook means leaving them.

wolfgke 9y ago
> Replacing functionality is the easy part. How do you replace volume of people using the system? Scandal or not - Facebook is still where "everyone is". I actually do know people who strongly prefer their friends not to have a Facebook account. So this is a feature and not a bug, since it is a strong opportunity to sort out to whom of the Facebook "friends" one really wants to stay in contact with. Or to give another argument why this is a feature and not a bug: About everybody who has used Facebook for a long time also has collected "friends" that one would love to drop from the friends list, but has not done for politeness. This is finally an opportunity to get rid of them in a much more socially accepted way.
- make3 9y ago
  come on you're a tiny minority, most people's friends are on Facebook
  - wolfgke 9y ago
    > come on you're a tiny minority, most people's friends are on Facebook My impression is that this strongly depends on the social circle the respective person is. You first have to keep in mind that in Germany many people indeed use Facebook, but it is not not that deeply integrated into the life as it is my impression that it is the case in the US. Also in Germany it is often the case (at least in my impression) that people that come to some gathering explicitly say that don't desire that anybody puts some photors that were made of them on Facebebook. In this case: if I were living in the USA, I probably were in a tiny minority. I am also probably a minority in Germany, too, but it is not my impression that this minority is tiny.
    - Semaphor 9y ago
      > that don't desire that anybody puts some photors that were made of them on Facebebook. Can confirm, coming from festivals I'm not allowed to upload some pictures to FB and have to send them via email to a bunch of different people who'd still like them.
ktosobcy 9y ago
are you doing anything to get them off Facebook? recommending alternatives at al? I gave up fb long time ago, suggested telegram to all my friends and have looked back...
- harel 9y ago
  No I'm not. I don't have spare time to go on campaigns like that nor am I interested. Pretty much all my friends on Facebook are there for a reason. I don't have any "cull" moments. There is no service currently that offers all that Facebook does AND has all those friends on it. When that is available, I'll reconsider. Until then, I am, and always has been aware to what data facebook has and how they use it. I'm on the net since the early 90s. The second most important lesson I learned from the internet is "What you do not want them to know, don't put online". Once anything is online, it's potentially public.
davidgu 9y ago
Another _problem_ with these suggestions is that they suggest +5 services to replace one. It's difficult enough to have a coordinated migration to a single new service. This just compounds the problem. To have a good chance at becoming a viable replacement, all of this functionality would have to be replicated in a single service. Taking on a multi-billion dollar company's cash cow product head-on is quite a difficult task.

by harel 9y ago

wolfgke 9y ago

> Replacing functionality is the easy part. How do you replace volume of people using the system? Scandal or not - Facebook is still where "everyone is". I actually do know people who strongly prefer their friends not to have a Facebook account. So this is a feature and not a bug, since it is a strong opportunity to sort out to whom of the Facebook "friends" one really wants to stay in contact with. Or to give another argument why this is a feature and not a bug: About everybody who has used Facebook for a long time also has collected "friends" that one would love to drop from the friends list, but has not done for politeness. This is finally an opportunity to get rid of them in a much more socially accepted way.

make3 9y ago
come on you're a tiny minority, most people's friends are on Facebook
- wolfgke 9y ago
  > come on you're a tiny minority, most people's friends are on Facebook My impression is that this strongly depends on the social circle the respective person is. You first have to keep in mind that in Germany many people indeed use Facebook, but it is not not that deeply integrated into the life as it is my impression that it is the case in the US. Also in Germany it is often the case (at least in my impression) that people that come to some gathering explicitly say that don't desire that anybody puts some photors that were made of them on Facebebook. In this case: if I were living in the USA, I probably were in a tiny minority. I am also probably a minority in Germany, too, but it is not my impression that this minority is tiny.
  - Semaphor 9y ago
    > that don't desire that anybody puts some photors that were made of them on Facebebook. Can confirm, coming from festivals I'm not allowed to upload some pictures to FB and have to send them via email to a bunch of different people who'd still like them.

ktosobcy 9y ago

are you doing anything to get them off Facebook? recommending alternatives at al? I gave up fb long time ago, suggested telegram to all my friends and have looked back...

harel 9y ago
No I'm not. I don't have spare time to go on campaigns like that nor am I interested. Pretty much all my friends on Facebook are there for a reason. I don't have any "cull" moments. There is no service currently that offers all that Facebook does AND has all those friends on it. When that is available, I'll reconsider. Until then, I am, and always has been aware to what data facebook has and how they use it. I'm on the net since the early 90s. The second most important lesson I learned from the internet is "What you do not want them to know, don't put online". Once anything is online, it's potentially public.

davidgu 9y ago

Another _problem_ with these suggestions is that they suggest +5 services to replace one. It's difficult enough to have a coordinated migration to a single new service. This just compounds the problem. To have a good chance at becoming a viable replacement, all of this functionality would have to be replicated in a single service. Taking on a multi-billion dollar company's cash cow product head-on is quite a difficult task.