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Marak, the guy behind the Nodejitsu (and, presumably, the popup message) is known to exhibit asshole behaviour. (See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=144830

Marak, the guy behind the Nodejitsu (and, presumably, the popup message) is known to exhibit asshole behaviour. (See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1448309 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1448309) The popup message is consistent with what HN knows of him. Whether being a jerk justifies banning I can't say - but his assertion that HN is biased has little justification (particularly when you consider that the writer himself is biased.) Kindly ignore.

thaumaturgy 16y ago
He seems to be about the same sort of asshole as a lot of other internet personalities (Theo comes to mind). i.e., he's good at what he does, knowledgeable, and he doesn't take the time to play nice with others. It kinda comes down to what sort of "thing" HN is supposed to be -- whether it has a place for people like him -- but regardless, he's certainly not exactly hurting over his inability to play in our little sandbox here.
- shadowsun7 16y ago
  Perhaps, though I wouldn't put it past him to write that popup message. It reads as childish sniping, is unnecessarily snarky, and it detracts from the core message of the post. Knowledgeable he may be, but professional he is most certainly not. Edit: I must admit, however, that I'm interested as to why he was banned. I don't believe he's said/done anything spiteful and mean in HN itself.
- supporting 16y ago
  But he's actually not knowledgeable or good at what he does -- if you view his Github page, you'll see that his projects are 100-line thefts or wrappers around other people's work. He's been a major drain/drag on the Node.js community, and makes the IRC channel a toxic wasteland for a good part of the day. He trolls other sites as well... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkDqh9ZVog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkDqh9ZVog
  - hij1nx 16y ago
    Marak is definitely unpleasant for some. However, he regularly contributes code to the community that people consider useful. For example among many high profile developers, Tim Caswell, a cornerstone of the Node.js community voted 5/5 for utility on the Nodejitsu Node Knockout entry. You're acting like you're a part of the Node.js community? If you or anyone is going to be so negative, they should at least have one or more nodejs projects that have been publicly noted as useful or relevant. So ironically, you're quite a troll.
  - mnutt 16y ago
    Say what you will about his interactions with people, but "not knowledgeable or good at what he does" is an unfair characterization. I find his hook.io project (http://hook.io/about.html http://hook.io/about.html) particularly interesting, and the BDD testing app he was building for Node Knockout has a lot of potential as well.
- frio 16y ago
  The thing is, that when it comes to other e-assholes (Zed being the obvious one), I genuinely respect their talent, and they generally do have enough insight available to them to realise when they've stepped too far. Zed in particular pumps out code I find useful and well built (<3 Lamson), and generally, his rants aren't overly horrible. Marak comes across as someone who's seen that and intends to emulate it, without the actual development skill or talent to back it up.
iamelgringo 16y ago
Further examples of charming behavior starting at comment 3 on this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/c332756b714d692e/f207a05f505cab2b?pli=1 http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/c...
tigerthink 16y ago
Possible justification for HN being biased: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1074079 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1074079

thaumaturgy 16y ago

He seems to be about the same sort of asshole as a lot of other internet personalities (Theo comes to mind). i.e., he's good at what he does, knowledgeable, and he doesn't take the time to play nice with others. It kinda comes down to what sort of "thing" HN is supposed to be -- whether it has a place for people like him -- but regardless, he's certainly not exactly hurting over his inability to play in our little sandbox here.

shadowsun7 16y ago
Perhaps, though I wouldn't put it past him to write that popup message. It reads as childish sniping, is unnecessarily snarky, and it detracts from the core message of the post. Knowledgeable he may be, but professional he is most certainly not. Edit: I must admit, however, that I'm interested as to why he was banned. I don't believe he's said/done anything spiteful and mean in HN itself.
supporting 16y ago
But he's actually not knowledgeable or good at what he does -- if you view his Github page, you'll see that his projects are 100-line thefts or wrappers around other people's work. He's been a major drain/drag on the Node.js community, and makes the IRC channel a toxic wasteland for a good part of the day. He trolls other sites as well... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkDqh9ZVog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkDqh9ZVog
- hij1nx 16y ago
  Marak is definitely unpleasant for some. However, he regularly contributes code to the community that people consider useful. For example among many high profile developers, Tim Caswell, a cornerstone of the Node.js community voted 5/5 for utility on the Nodejitsu Node Knockout entry. You're acting like you're a part of the Node.js community? If you or anyone is going to be so negative, they should at least have one or more nodejs projects that have been publicly noted as useful or relevant. So ironically, you're quite a troll.
- mnutt 16y ago
  Say what you will about his interactions with people, but "not knowledgeable or good at what he does" is an unfair characterization. I find his hook.io project (http://hook.io/about.html http://hook.io/about.html) particularly interesting, and the BDD testing app he was building for Node Knockout has a lot of potential as well.
frio 16y ago
The thing is, that when it comes to other e-assholes (Zed being the obvious one), I genuinely respect their talent, and they generally do have enough insight available to them to realise when they've stepped too far. Zed in particular pumps out code I find useful and well built (<3 Lamson), and generally, his rants aren't overly horrible. Marak comes across as someone who's seen that and intends to emulate it, without the actual development skill or talent to back it up.

iamelgringo 16y ago

Further examples of charming behavior starting at comment 3 on this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/c332756b714d692e/f207a05f505cab2b?pli=1 http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs/browse_thread/thread/c...

tigerthink 16y ago

Possible justification for HN being biased: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1074079 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1074079