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True enough - > It's hard to have discussion with someone who will not acknowledge basic facts. Let me acknowledge the article as 100% factual, and further le

True enough - > It's hard to have discussion with someone who will not acknowledge basic facts. Let me acknowledge the article as 100% factual, and further let me concede that the New York Times (NYT) didn't leave any pertinent information (context) out or editorialize the meeting. Fair 'nuff for discussion? My next response is, 'So what?' He's free as anyone to talk as he likes to anyone he likes. Unless Congress passed a law saying otherwise... is Congress free these days to negate the First Amendment? Let's parse your earlier statements regarding the Russian ambassador - > Why would Trump meet with the Russian ambassador and tell him Comey is taken care of? Where does Trump say specifically Comey is 'taken care of'? I see no such quote. I see NYT quoted him as saying 'I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job.... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.... I'm not under investigation.' That's all of Trump's quotes in their entirety, the ones NYT thought fit to use. As you have a hard time discussing things with people who won't accept basic facts, I have an equally hard time with people who spin so-called facts to mean there's only one plausible explanation. So to answer your question - Trump could have said what he's reported to have said because he genuinely hated Comey and was proud of getting rid of him. Or maybe he wanted to show off to the Russian officials and, like he often does, jokingly and in an off-handed way decided to state what he just did to show what a man he was. Who knows? Trump wouldn't be the first person happy to fire a guy. Before I leave off this, take a look at what NYT itself wrote right after quoting Trump - 'The conversation... reinforces the NOTION that the president dismissed [Comey] primarily because of the bureau's investigation into possible collusion...' (Emphasis mine.) Notion. Not fact. Notion. Belief. Editorial. The fact is Trump dismissed Comey. The fact is Trump took no small amount of glee in it. The fact is, whatever Trump's feelings, as President he had every right to fire Comey. If he smiled when he told the Russians what he did, eh, again, so what? As far as I'm aware, that indicates Trump's a jerk, not that he's breaking a law or colluding with anyone. Moving on - > And do this secretly? If the meeting was recorded and reported on, it's not much of a secret. Besides, I can give at least one good reason why he WOULD want to keep this meeting a secret - because there are folks who will interpret such a meeting in the worst. Possible. Light. Ahem. Moving on - > Why would Trump have an insult for every US ally and not a single bad word about Russia? Mmm, as far as I know Trump's buddies with Benjamin Netanyahu, and Israel's a US ally. I don't recall any insults, but I don't pay much attention to newspapers these days, so there's a chance one's slipped past me. Nor do I recall insults to the prime minsters of Japan and South Korea. But, again, newspapers. You did ask for a single bad word about Russia, yes? And I provided, yes? I can't help that you move the goal posts. Then again, I am told I have trouble with basic facts. P.S. Downvote me, but please explain why.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> The fact is, whatever Trump's feelings, as President he had every right to fire Comey No, he had the legal power to fire Comey. This is not in dispute (if it were, there would be a question of the validity of the firing, and whether Comey was, in fact, still lawfully the Director of the FBI.) It is also not a question of rights, but of powers vested in particular government officials under the law. What is in question is whether that firing was an abuse of power (a misfeasance or malfeasance in office), as well as the overlapping question of whether Trump or others had previously committed other crimes (which the firing may have been intended to protect; note that had Trump wished to retroactively license such crimes, the power of the pardon would also be within his legal power, but that would still raise questions of abuse of power, and would be somewhat more overt in its purpose.)

dragonwriter 9y ago

> The fact is, whatever Trump's feelings, as President he had every right to fire Comey No, he had the legal power to fire Comey. This is not in dispute (if it were, there would be a question of the validity of the firing, and whether Comey was, in fact, still lawfully the Director of the FBI.) It is also not a question of rights, but of powers vested in particular government officials under the law. What is in question is whether that firing was an abuse of power (a misfeasance or malfeasance in office), as well as the overlapping question of whether Trump or others had previously committed other crimes (which the firing may have been intended to protect; note that had Trump wished to retroactively license such crimes, the power of the pardon would also be within his legal power, but that would still raise questions of abuse of power, and would be somewhat more overt in its purpose.)