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I know, right, alternatively, maybe diversity forces people to share and empathize other perspectives in order to accomplish a shared goal. Maybe being around p

I know, right, alternatively, maybe diversity forces people to share and empathize other perspectives in order to accomplish a shared goal. Maybe being around people different then you forces you to filter your asinine assumptions in order to not to come across like a moron and be aliented. Maybe it forces people to critically think about what they are going to say before they just enter into whatever idiotic rant they read on the internet, because their might be consequences in the real world.

stcredzero 9y ago
Maybe being around people different then you forces you to filter your asinine assumptions in order to not to come across like a moron and be aliented. No. What you described right there is authoritarianism. Is that really how you think it should work? Let me tell you: I've seen people overcoming their toxic "isms" firsthand. It's not done through authoritarianism. It's not done by telling people that they're "morons." Such facile reduction and out-grouping and denigration is precisely the toxicity you're supposedly fighting. People overcome their bigotry by bonding. (I've seen the worst backwoods homophobe become best friends with a gay activist.) You have it exactly "bass-ackwards" here: "I know, right, alternatively, maybe diversity forces people to share and empathize other perspectives in order to accomplish a shared goal." It's the shared goal that compels people to see the basic humanity of other people. If you put the force first, then you 1) reveal something about your internal character and your respect for the self determination of others 2) risk causing counter-productive backlash. "Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." -- Robert A. Heinlein
- supercanuck 9y ago
  > authoritarianism Is a Corporation a democracy? Shared goal in this case is maximizing profit. Did Steve Jobs carry himself like a President of a democratic nation or a benevelent dictator? Don't lose sight of the context of this article.
  - stcredzero 9y ago
    Is a Corporation a democracy? Corporations competing in a democratic framework are, to date, the best way of promoting human welfare by producing wealth and distributing power. While corporations themselves are, in the words of Frank Herbert, basically feudal hierarchies, they exist within a framework of (somewhat) meritocratic competition. Did Steve Jobs carry himself like a President of a democratic nation or a benevelent dictator? He succeeded through discernment, and a willingness to cannibalize existing business to find the next big thing. Sometimes the way he carried himself and conducted himself was a detriment. Don't lose sight of the context of this article. Are you still trying to cling to authoritarianism? Do you think Steve Jobs would have succeeded in an authoritarian society? He credits cultural freedom in his biography for his success. Corporations succeed where they support people's self determination. The true progress of Social Justice has largely been through the removal of undue influences of government and organizations over people due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. It's the people who would increase undue influences of government and organizations who are engaging in self serving hucksterism.

stcredzero 9y ago

Maybe being around people different then you forces you to filter your asinine assumptions in order to not to come across like a moron and be aliented. No. What you described right there is authoritarianism. Is that really how you think it should work? Let me tell you: I've seen people overcoming their toxic "isms" firsthand. It's not done through authoritarianism. It's not done by telling people that they're "morons." Such facile reduction and out-grouping and denigration is precisely the toxicity you're supposedly fighting. People overcome their bigotry by bonding. (I've seen the worst backwoods homophobe become best friends with a gay activist.) You have it exactly "bass-ackwards" here: "I know, right, alternatively, maybe diversity forces people to share and empathize other perspectives in order to accomplish a shared goal." It's the shared goal that compels people to see the basic humanity of other people. If you put the force first, then you 1) reveal something about your internal character and your respect for the self determination of others 2) risk causing counter-productive backlash. "Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." -- Robert A. Heinlein

supercanuck 9y ago
> authoritarianism Is a Corporation a democracy? Shared goal in this case is maximizing profit. Did Steve Jobs carry himself like a President of a democratic nation or a benevelent dictator? Don't lose sight of the context of this article.
- stcredzero 9y ago
  Is a Corporation a democracy? Corporations competing in a democratic framework are, to date, the best way of promoting human welfare by producing wealth and distributing power. While corporations themselves are, in the words of Frank Herbert, basically feudal hierarchies, they exist within a framework of (somewhat) meritocratic competition. Did Steve Jobs carry himself like a President of a democratic nation or a benevelent dictator? He succeeded through discernment, and a willingness to cannibalize existing business to find the next big thing. Sometimes the way he carried himself and conducted himself was a detriment. Don't lose sight of the context of this article. Are you still trying to cling to authoritarianism? Do you think Steve Jobs would have succeeded in an authoritarian society? He credits cultural freedom in his biography for his success. Corporations succeed where they support people's self determination. The true progress of Social Justice has largely been through the removal of undue influences of government and organizations over people due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. It's the people who would increase undue influences of government and organizations who are engaging in self serving hucksterism.