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I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%, but it is possible to use them and I am using them from time to time without problems.

by jhasse 9y ago

ryanlol 9y ago
The existence of optional secret chats used by nobody, not implemented by apps and actively discouraged by UI, seems like a particularly shit excuse for what Telegram is doing.
- jhasse 9y ago
  > used by nobody I use it, so it isn't nobody. > not implemented by apps It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones. > actively discouraged by UI How is this actively discouraging? https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/63638325770104/0/636383257701041879.jpg https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/6363832577010...
  - ryanlol 9y ago
    https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram >Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line Why are you defending these fraudsters? >I use it, so it isn't nobody. Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%" >It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones. Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all. >How is this actively discouraging? Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? Is it because of Durovs superior encryption technology? You simply can't justify that button.
    - jhasse 9y ago
      > Why are you defending these fraudsters? Them being fraudsters doesn't make all of your allegations true. > Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%" So? 0.1% is below 1% and would still correspend to ~200000 users. That is NOT nobody. > Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all. Source for the 30%? > Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? It's a trade-off. WhatsApp / Telegram's secure-chats are lacking other features Telegram's non-secure chats have.

I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%, but it is possible to use them and I am using them from time to time without problems.

by jhasse 9y ago

I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%, but it is possible to use them and I am using them from time to time without problems.

ryanlol 9y ago

The existence of optional secret chats used by nobody, not implemented by apps and actively discouraged by UI, seems like a particularly shit excuse for what Telegram is doing.

jhasse 9y ago
> used by nobody I use it, so it isn't nobody. > not implemented by apps It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones. > actively discouraged by UI How is this actively discouraging? https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/63638325770104/0/636383257701041879.jpg https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/6363832577010...
- ryanlol 9y ago
  https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram >Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line Why are you defending these fraudsters? >I use it, so it isn't nobody. Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%" >It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones. Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all. >How is this actively discouraging? Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? Is it because of Durovs superior encryption technology? You simply can't justify that button.
  - jhasse 9y ago
    > Why are you defending these fraudsters? Them being fraudsters doesn't make all of your allegations true. > Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%" So? 0.1% is below 1% and would still correspend to ~200000 users. That is NOT nobody. > Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all. Source for the 30%? > Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? It's a trade-off. WhatsApp / Telegram's secure-chats are lacking other features Telegram's non-secure chats have.