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> I do enjoy videos showing safe gun care or historic guns I like Forgotten Weapons. It has serious historical information, and I will be pissed off if Google

> I do enjoy videos showing safe gun care or historic guns I like Forgotten Weapons. It has serious historical information, and I will be pissed off if Google deletes it. It seems to be that the principle behind net neutrality -- that of a common carrier -- shouldn't just apply to the ip layer, but should also sometimes apply to higher levels of the technology stack, especially when a provider has a large market share.

zaarn 9y ago
I generally agree, yeah, if a provider has a large or controlling market share then they should be obligated to some form of common carrier principle beyond "they're a private company, they can do business with whoever they want". It's simply a risk that lawmakers or the company itself begin enforcing laws outside their jurisdiction (using the company as proxy) or their personal beliefs and ethics (enforcing rules that seem nonsensical to an affected culture or country)
xemdetia 9y ago
Just want to give Forgotten Weapons a plug here. There is a ton of manufacturing knowledge baked into those episodes as well as some great information on tech paths that didn't pan out that I haven't really gotten from another source. This cultural shift just makes me feel like the old line was obscenity and the new line is appropriate for 5 year olds.
ropeadopepope 9y ago
> I will be pissed off if Google deletes it. They've all been cross-posted here. https://www.full30.com/channels/forgottenweapons https://www.full30.com/channels/forgottenweapons
Navarr 9y ago
Did anyone read the article to see what types of videos Google is taking action against? > YouTube will ban videos that offer instructions on how to make firearms and accessories such as silencers and bump stocks. It will prohibit content in which firearms and accessories are sold, both directly and through other websites. Videos on how to install firearms modifications will also be barred. > While we've long prohibited the sale of firearms, we recently notified creators of updates we will be making around content promoting the sale or manufacture of firearms and their accessories, specifically, items like ammunition, gatling triggers, and drop-in auto sears.
- en4bz 9y ago
  The channel mentioned "Forgotten Weapons" is mostly filmed at auction houses since it's the best place to find a lot of old guns in the same place at one time. As part of his arrangement with the auction centers the creator plugs the upcoming auction for the guns he is reviewing and links it in the description. This would probably be against the rules.
  - mrguyorama 9y ago
    YouTube routinely skirts its own rules for popular channels
- mastax 9y ago
  In addition to en4bz' point Forgotten Weapons almost always disassembles the gun being discussed to show how it works. This could be construed as showing 'how to make guns'. They may be technically allowed, but try convincing an algorithm or non-expert poorly-paid censor that.
major505 9y ago
Forgoten Weapons, British Muzzle Loaders Cap and Ball C&Rsenal vbbsmyt Good, informative, and educational channels, that will problally be banned from youtube in the future.

zaarn 9y ago

I generally agree, yeah, if a provider has a large or controlling market share then they should be obligated to some form of common carrier principle beyond "they're a private company, they can do business with whoever they want". It's simply a risk that lawmakers or the company itself begin enforcing laws outside their jurisdiction (using the company as proxy) or their personal beliefs and ethics (enforcing rules that seem nonsensical to an affected culture or country)

xemdetia 9y ago

Just want to give Forgotten Weapons a plug here. There is a ton of manufacturing knowledge baked into those episodes as well as some great information on tech paths that didn't pan out that I haven't really gotten from another source. This cultural shift just makes me feel like the old line was obscenity and the new line is appropriate for 5 year olds.

ropeadopepope 9y ago

> I will be pissed off if Google deletes it. They've all been cross-posted here. https://www.full30.com/channels/forgottenweapons https://www.full30.com/channels/forgottenweapons

Navarr 9y ago

Did anyone read the article to see what types of videos Google is taking action against? > YouTube will ban videos that offer instructions on how to make firearms and accessories such as silencers and bump stocks. It will prohibit content in which firearms and accessories are sold, both directly and through other websites. Videos on how to install firearms modifications will also be barred. > While we've long prohibited the sale of firearms, we recently notified creators of updates we will be making around content promoting the sale or manufacture of firearms and their accessories, specifically, items like ammunition, gatling triggers, and drop-in auto sears.

en4bz 9y ago
The channel mentioned "Forgotten Weapons" is mostly filmed at auction houses since it's the best place to find a lot of old guns in the same place at one time. As part of his arrangement with the auction centers the creator plugs the upcoming auction for the guns he is reviewing and links it in the description. This would probably be against the rules.
- mrguyorama 9y ago
  YouTube routinely skirts its own rules for popular channels
mastax 9y ago
In addition to en4bz' point Forgotten Weapons almost always disassembles the gun being discussed to show how it works. This could be construed as showing 'how to make guns'. They may be technically allowed, but try convincing an algorithm or non-expert poorly-paid censor that.

major505 9y ago

Forgoten Weapons, British Muzzle Loaders Cap and Ball C&Rsenal vbbsmyt Good, informative, and educational channels, that will problally be banned from youtube in the future.