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> everything they do is open That is incorrect. Many bug reports are marked as private for security reasons. Other decisions such as Pocket, Cliqz and Mr Rob

> everything they do is open That is incorrect. Many bug reports are marked as private for security reasons. Other decisions such as Pocket, Cliqz and Mr Robot are made and executed in private. Once the code is thrown over the wall it's all open. Upstream of that is a different matter.

9034725985 9y ago
> Other decisions such as Pocket I am amazed that Mozilla has not yet released Pocket as free and open source software. What's going on?
- sciurus 9y ago
  It's in progress. You can see what has been released already at https://github.com/Pocket https://github.com/Pocket FYI, I work at Mozilla but don't speak for Mozilla.
- dralley 9y ago
  They did... 2 months ago... https://github.com/Pocket https://github.com/Pocket
  - slrz 9y ago
    No server-side code. No mobile apps. No public word on when this is going to happen. Yet, this proprietary technology is further integrated into Firefox.
derf_ 9y ago
> That is incorrect. Many bug reports are marked as private for security reasons. Maybe you don't know how this works. Most (almost all) employees do not have access to these bugs, either. But community members can and do have access. Early access to these reports can be worth literally millions of dollars in the wrong hands, and cause much more damage to our users. However, who gets access isn't decided by who gets a paycheck. It's decided by who is involved and participating and trustworthy. That can be literally anybody.
- slrz 9y ago
  Bugs are also marked private without any security angle involved whatsoever. Often, these are related to initiatives done in cooperation with so-called "partners". For an open source project, Mozilla appears to constantly settle on pretty shitty partners if it is true (as is alleged) that it's these partners that insist on secret communication shielded from any community interaction. Such shady deals in smoke-filled backrooms are one of the small number of things that are hard to impossible to pull off in a community-driven project without constantly pissing off contributors.
  - Yoric 9y ago
    Er... pretty much everybody in pretty much all industries prefer keeping their internal communications and their communications with their clients/providers private. Mozilla is one of the only industry actors who manages to keep most of its communications public.

9034725985 9y ago

> Other decisions such as Pocket I am amazed that Mozilla has not yet released Pocket as free and open source software. What's going on?

sciurus 9y ago
It's in progress. You can see what has been released already at https://github.com/Pocket https://github.com/Pocket FYI, I work at Mozilla but don't speak for Mozilla.
dralley 9y ago
They did... 2 months ago... https://github.com/Pocket https://github.com/Pocket
- slrz 9y ago
  No server-side code. No mobile apps. No public word on when this is going to happen. Yet, this proprietary technology is further integrated into Firefox.

derf_ 9y ago

> That is incorrect. Many bug reports are marked as private for security reasons. Maybe you don't know how this works. Most (almost all) employees do not have access to these bugs, either. But community members can and do have access. Early access to these reports can be worth literally millions of dollars in the wrong hands, and cause much more damage to our users. However, who gets access isn't decided by who gets a paycheck. It's decided by who is involved and participating and trustworthy. That can be literally anybody.

slrz 9y ago
Bugs are also marked private without any security angle involved whatsoever. Often, these are related to initiatives done in cooperation with so-called "partners". For an open source project, Mozilla appears to constantly settle on pretty shitty partners if it is true (as is alleged) that it's these partners that insist on secret communication shielded from any community interaction. Such shady deals in smoke-filled backrooms are one of the small number of things that are hard to impossible to pull off in a community-driven project without constantly pissing off contributors.
- Yoric 9y ago
  Er... pretty much everybody in pretty much all industries prefer keeping their internal communications and their communications with their clients/providers private. Mozilla is one of the only industry actors who manages to keep most of its communications public.