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The difference here is that you expect Google to collect -a lot- of data about you and your browsing habits. You can also be quite sure that they'll want to kee

The difference here is that you expect Google to collect -a lot- of data about you and your browsing habits. You can also be quite sure that they'll want to keep that data to themselves. When my data ends up at a third party, especially without my knowledge, I'm much more concerned about it being sold and or shared further.

kbenson 9y ago
> You can also be quite sure that they'll want to keep that data to themselves. I've traditionally made the same argument. I still mostly believe it WRT Google. Facebook's current woes with Cambridge Analytica has hurt my confidence in this some.
caconym_ 9y ago
> When my data ends up at a third party, especially without my knowledge, I'm much more concerned about it being sold and or shared further. That or stolen thanks to negligent data handling practices. Or maybe both (e.g. Equifax).
geofft 9y ago
> When my data ends up at a third party, especially without my knowledge, I'm much more concerned about it being sold and or shared further. As stated in the mailing list thread linked in the article, Mozilla has a legal agreement with Cloudflare that the data will not be stored long-term, let alone sold or shared. My reading is that they're keeping information about DNS requests and responses, but not who made the request, for 24 hours for debugging purposes, and then getting rid of all logs. The data they're actually interested in is performance, not the DNS flow itself. You're welcome to decide that Mozilla's trust in other companies is misplaced even if they get a signed contract, and if you do, that would be a good reason to cease using Firefox (Nightly or otherwise!). But if you're not of that opinion, it doesn't make sense to worry that the data simply happens to go through a third party. (Also, what third parties see your DNS data today? Do you think your ISP is not tracking this?)

kbenson 9y ago

> You can also be quite sure that they'll want to keep that data to themselves. I've traditionally made the same argument. I still mostly believe it WRT Google. Facebook's current woes with Cambridge Analytica has hurt my confidence in this some.

caconym_ 9y ago

> When my data ends up at a third party, especially without my knowledge, I'm much more concerned about it being sold and or shared further. That or stolen thanks to negligent data handling practices. Or maybe both (e.g. Equifax).

geofft 9y ago

> When my data ends up at a third party, especially without my knowledge, I'm much more concerned about it being sold and or shared further. As stated in the mailing list thread linked in the article, Mozilla has a legal agreement with Cloudflare that the data will not be stored long-term, let alone sold or shared. My reading is that they're keeping information about DNS requests and responses, but not who made the request, for 24 hours for debugging purposes, and then getting rid of all logs. The data they're actually interested in is performance, not the DNS flow itself. You're welcome to decide that Mozilla's trust in other companies is misplaced even if they get a signed contract, and if you do, that would be a good reason to cease using Firefox (Nightly or otherwise!). But if you're not of that opinion, it doesn't make sense to worry that the data simply happens to go through a third party. (Also, what third parties see your DNS data today? Do you think your ISP is not tracking this?)